Adam and Eve sinned, as the story goes, an introduced 'sin' into creation, based on one story theme.
We hear (or read) about the serpent, sneaking around all sinister-like, in The Garden, telling Eve what she was told isn't right and she won't die if she does this. She munches on the apple, then gets Adam to do the same. They saw they were naked and covered up. THEN... God strolls in, looking for them, but can't find them (Genesis 3 and on).
So where did God go, that he couldn't see what was happening?
Shopping at the Deity Center for discounts?
I mean, seriously. Was he not paying attention? Did he not care? Was he not 'omni-present' at that time?
And why couldn't he find them when he was looking for them?
Did he forget his glasses?
For a deity that's supposed to be all powerful, above all else, all knowing and seeing, he sure seemed to drop the ball during this critical time.
Or was that the plan all along? If so, that doesn't seem very loving and somewhat deceitful.
Where was God when this was happening?
Where was God?
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Re: Where was God?
Post #2The story tells Yahweh asks "Where are you?" and "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?". I think that how He asks the questions tells He already knows, but wants people to answer to them.nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:32 pm Adam and Eve sinned, as the story goes, an introduced 'sin' into creation, based on one story theme.
We hear (or read) about the serpent, sneaking around all sinister-like, in The Garden, telling Eve what she was told isn't right and she won't die if she does this. She munches on the apple, then gets Adam to do the same. They saw they were naked and covered up. THEN... God strolls in, looking for them, but can't find them (Genesis 3 and on)....
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Post #3So how would he ask them if he really didn't know?1213 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:21 pmThe story tells Yahweh asks "Where are you?" and "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?". I think that how He asks the questions tells He already knows, but wants people to answer to them.nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:32 pm Adam and Eve sinned, as the story goes, an introduced 'sin' into creation, based on one story theme.
We hear (or read) about the serpent, sneaking around all sinister-like, in The Garden, telling Eve what she was told isn't right and she won't die if she does this. She munches on the apple, then gets Adam to do the same. They saw they were naked and covered up. THEN... God strolls in, looking for them, but can't find them (Genesis 3 and on)....
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Post #4As far as the story goes, God is clearly guilty of depraved indifference.nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:32 pm So where did God go, that he couldn't see what was happening?
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I mean, seriously. Was he not paying attention? Did he not care? Was he not 'omni-present' at that time?
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Post #5[Replying to nobspeople in post #1]
This is the earliest example of 2 primordial forces fighting for the souls of humanity. Maybe humanity needed to learn the hard way? Maybe the Devil just took advantage of naivety? I, for one, certainly don't believe God planned for evil among human beings and else in nature. No! It's the battle between the 2 primordial forces of Good and Evil!nobspeople wrote:So where did God go, that he couldn't see what was happening?
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I mean, seriously. Was he not paying attention? Did he not care? Was he not 'omni-present' at that time?
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Post #6So you are saying that God didn't know the Devil was in the garden with Adam and Eve? It's either that or God allowed the Devil to roam in the garden knowing full well what was going to happen - unless He is not actually sure of what's going to happen.Aetixintro wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:31 am [Maybe the Devil just took advantage of naivety? I, for one, certainly don't believe God planned for evil among human beings and else in nature. No! It's the battle between the 2 primordial forces of Good and Evil!
Any way you look at it, the God character in the story is the culpable one, not the humans. It only seems to be apologists who want to shift all blame from the all knowing, all powerful, all loving deity and land the blame on the humans who had no full knowledge of what was happening.
Let's put it this way, one character tells you not to eat from the tree. Another one says go for it, you won't be harmed. How can you possibly know which one is telling the truth? Even if you think the first character is the one in charge, what are you supposed to think of this character who puts a tree that will harm you in your living space? Is this god not capable of removing a tree? Or perhaps enjoys watching you be tempted knowing that you will eventually choose wrong?
IMHO, the whole thing is ludicrous, both as a literal story or an allegory.
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Post #7Exactly, He was giving them the opportunity to tell their side of the story; to explain themselves so they could reveal their motive. Parents do this all the time, they ask their children what they ( the parent) already knows so they can see something more important than what they have done, namely, how the child feels about what they have done.
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Post #8I think that is a good question. If He would not have known, He would not have had reason to ask those questions, especially right next to them. To think He didn’t know would be like saying, that parent doesn't really know where his child is when he plays whit his child and for example hides the child with a blanket and asks “where is the child, I can’t see him”.
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And it's been a mess ever since.nobspeople wrote: Adam and Eve sinned, as the story goes, [and] introduced 'sin' into creation, based on one story theme.
Ya gotta remember, this is the hide and go seek champion of all time.nobspeople wrote: We hear (or read) about the serpent, sneaking around all sinister-like, in The Garden, telling Eve what she was told isn't right and she won't die if she does this. She munches on the apple, then gets Adam to do the same. They saw they were naked and covered up. THEN... God strolls in, looking for them, but can't find them (Genesis 3 and on).
So where did God go, that he couldn't see what was happening?
They'd snuck them off behind a bush, and went to peeking em under one another's fig leaves.nobspeople wrote: ...
And why couldn't he find them when he was looking for them?
Did he forget his glasses?
Naw, he created Republicans, that they could peek in on everybody's nekkid togetherings for him.nobspeople wrote: For a deity that's supposed to be all powerful, above all else, all knowing and seeing, he sure seemed to drop the ball during this critical time.
Hiding and alaughing, thinking "They ain't never gonna find me here".nobspeople wrote: ...
Where was God when this was happening?
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