Of course this is based on personal opinion (some of you may not like that), but is all of God's more 'negative' decisions made in the bible justified? I'm sure all Christians would say YES, while non-Christians may be mixed in their responses.
For those that say YES, God's more 'negative' actions (drowning most of the life on the planet, drowning Pharoah and his army when they crossed after Moses (God likes to drown, it seems - weird), killing of Egypt's first born, allowing Job to be tortured to prove a point when he already knew how faithful he was, etc), are you saying YES because he is God and can do no wrong (in other words, you question his motives based on your understanding but stand behind him nonetheless) or do you believe, 100%, he was right in his actions?
Can you provide reference as to why and how he was 100% justified?
Is God always justified in his actions?
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #61As I've already stated, there is no need to apologize. Your mistakes are obvious.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:49 amYes you are right I was wrong. I APOLOGISE, it was wrong of me to say that, I was mistake, there *is* no link to your acknowledhement of my statement that I used the term HOLY as a title.
My bad, Sorry, I was wrong on that point.
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Now, do you care to clarify your claim by stating whether or not the bible is holy or not? It's a yes or no question.
1. YES the bible is holy.
2. NO the bible isn't holy.
One or two. YES or NO. Which is it?
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #62What claim was that?
If you are refering to ...
My response is the same: I made no such claim.
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #63Your claim that the bible is holy. Are you denying that is the case?
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Post #64I made no such claim. Please provide the link.
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #65Yep. There is no reason to conclude that an omniscient god is actually omniscient.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:29 amKnowing how faithful someone is does not mean necessarily mean we know how faithful that person will be in the future. God expressed his confidence in Job but there is nothing in the text that confirms God knew for certain of Job's continued integrity under test.nobspeople wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:12 pm... allowing Job to be tortured to prove a point when he already knew how faithful he was, etc.
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #66I have already. Please review if you missed it.
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #67No you have not. I have not missed it, it does not exist.
I made no such claim. Please provide the link.
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #68I already did. Why are you ignoring it? Why do you continue to ignore my question:JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:18 amIrrelevant evasion.
I made no such claim. Please provide the link.
Is the bible holy or is it not?
H - holy
N - not holy
Please pick one.
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Post #69No you did not. That is untrue; if you insist simply provide the link "again". Why do you not do so? You have not, nor can you provide a link where I claim that the bible is holy.
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #70Of course I did. A simple review will reveal the fact that this is true. Where do we turn to to answer the question you continually ignore? Is the bible holy or is it not?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:27 amNo you did not. That is untrue; if you insist simply provide the link "again". Why do you not do so?
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- wiploc
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