Col 3:17

[Wootah]

And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

JWs and friends:

Why would I thank God through a not God being?

Why would all my words and deeds be in the name of a not God being?

When did the Shema get dropped? If I thought Jesus was not God I would consider the NT blasphemy of the worst kind.

nb:
This is the same question as this one but in a different forum for more participation and questioning of the Bible (while staying on topic).
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=38389

[JoeyKnothead]

From The OP:

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Why would I thank God through a not God being?

Some folks think their imaginary friends are real?

Why would all my words and deeds be in the name of a not God being? Up

Cause you ain't a god?

When did the Shema get dropped?

Right after they let the dogs out?

If I thought Jesus was not God I would consider the NT blasphemy of the worst kind.
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I've yet to find anyone who can show they know the mind of a god they can't show exists.

But please try, maybe you'll be the first who can.

[1213]

And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

JWs and friends:

Why would I thank God through a not God being?

Why would all my words and deeds be in the name of a not God being?
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God gave his name to Jesus and Jesus acts in the name of God. Because Jesus has God’s name, we do things in God’s name, if we do them in Jesus name.

I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them through your name which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are.
John 17:11

[nobspeople]

[Replying to Wootah in post #1]

Why would I thank God through a not God being?

I wondered the same thing for a long time. I guess, it could be that there needs to be an interim or conduit to relay info back-n-forth because God is so great, or something like that? Though, didn't seem to be much of a problem in the bible before, so....

[Wootah]

And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

JWs and friends:

Why would I thank God through a not God being?

Why would all my words and deeds be in the name of a not God being?
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God gave his name to Jesus and Jesus acts in the name of God. Because Jesus has God’s name, we do things in God’s name, if we do them in Jesus name.

I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them through your name which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are.
John 17:11

If someone comes along and says God gave them their name and said they act in God's name would you believe them?
Remember the Bible is not authoritative here in this forum.

It's a recipe for disaster 1213 in the sense that if Jesus is not God we have a model for total separation of man and God by a not God being sitting between us and God.

Should we have it both ways and ask God to forgive us if we have been totally deceived by a man and at the same time follow God in thought, word and deed through a man? Is this a modern pascal's wager?

[1213]

...If someone comes along and says God gave them their name and said they act in God's name would you believe them?
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I think it would depend on what the person does and says. In the case of Jesus, he had the miracles and things went as he told, which convinced his disciples and me.

[Wootah]

...If someone comes along and says God gave them their name and said they act in God's name would you believe them?
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I think it would depend on what the person does and says. In the case of Jesus, he had the miracles and things went as he told, which convinced his disciples and me.

If you are in it for the miracles, be warned, you're gunna love the anti-Christ as he will have the bells and whistles too!

[1213]

...If someone comes along and says God gave them their name and said they act in God's name would you believe them?
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I think it would depend on what the person does and says. In the case of Jesus, he had the miracles and things went as he told, which convinced his disciples and me.

If you are in it for the miracles, be warned, you're gunna love the anti-Christ as he will have the bells and whistles too!

Yes, I know, for me the main thing is what Jesus and God has said, not the miracles.

[nobspeople]

...If someone comes along and says God gave them their name and said they act in God's name would you believe them?
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I think it would depend on what the person does and says. In the case of Jesus, he had the miracles and things went as he told, which convinced his disciples and me.

If you are in it for the miracles, be warned, you're gunna love the anti-Christ as he will have the bells and whistles too!

Yes, I know, for me the main thing is what Jesus and God has said, not the miracles.

So is it the miracles or not?
Or is it 'the miracles but not the miracles'?
Or maybe it's 'the miracles when they work for my POV'?
Do you really have an opinion or are you blowing along with the wind (either is fine IMO - just trying to figure out from where you come)?

[1213]

...If someone comes along and says God gave them their name and said they act in God's name would you believe them?
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I think it would depend on what the person does and says. In the case of Jesus, he had the miracles and things went as he told, which convinced his disciples and me.

If you are in it for the miracles, be warned, you're gunna love the anti-Christ as he will have the bells and whistles too!

Yes, I know, for me the main thing is what Jesus and God has said, not the miracles.

So is it the miracles or not?
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As I said, main thing for me is the words, and things went as he told. His words give the meaning for the miracles and things that went as he told.