There's a scene in Forrest Gump where his mum trades sexual favours with the principal of the school in exchange for her mentally handicapped (by only 5 IQ points under the required 80) son to be able to attend normal classes. I've never believed in anything really and when I saw the film at a young age, I thought, how horrible a thing, what a disgusting thing that she would do, so her son can have a better chance at a normal life. I considered her a hero. I even thought, I would not do such a thing in that position. Just too gross.
Biblically, however, sex is pretty well sacred.
Question for Debate: Is sacrificing your own body in a sexual way, but entirely for the selfless good of someone else, a heroic or an evil act?
(The thread title was intentionally sensational. I understand that in Christianity, doing something wrong or even evil does not automatically mean you burn in Hell. I quite understand about forgiveness. My question is whether this is something she needs to be forgiven for.)
Is Forrest Gump's Mum Going to Hell?
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Re: Is Forrest Gump's Mum Going to Hell?
Post #21I think, if it hurts her, it is bad enough. But, even when I think it is wrong, I think it can be forgiven. I can understand why someone would do so, even if I think there are better ways to arrange things.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:30 pm ...The question is why the act is wrong. It didn't hurt anybody but her. ....
...You'd feel differently if it was her arm, right? What if, instead of sex, the principal had wanted her to chop off her arm and give it to him? What if it was her severed arm and not her vagina? Then it's a selfless and heroic act, not a sinful one?...
One problem with this is, I think it is the lazy and easy solution what she chose. And to me that makes it bad and worse.
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Post #22The whole body is sacred then, in this "don't sell yourself" way. Not just the vagina. In other words, God didn't give you two arms so you could lop one off to trade for bread or a better life for your child. Do I have you correct here? I know there's a sect that believes this, and they not only don't like organ donation, they don't like vaccines either. Now I'm not judging them as wrong, in fact to a point I agree with them, and furthermore you don't have to go that far.
Well yes, if there's another solution that requires more effort for the same or better result, the prostitution option is the lazy one. One could even say, well, if the only way I see to get my son into regular classes is to sell my body to the lusty principal, maybe God wants my son in the learning disabled classes.
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Post #23Yes, I don’t think it would be good and I think it would be evil to require someone to do so.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:43 am The whole body is sacred then, in this "don't sell yourself" way. Not just the vagina. In other words, God didn't give you two arms so you could lop one off to trade for bread or a better life for your child. Do I have you correct here?...
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Post #24Would it still be evil if one wasn't required to do so?1213 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:26 pmYes, I don’t think it would be good and I think it would be evil to require someone to do so.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:43 am The whole body is sacred then, in this "don't sell yourself" way. Not just the vagina. In other words, God didn't give you two arms so you could lop one off to trade for bread or a better life for your child. Do I have you correct here?...
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Post #25Not necessary evil. I think it would just be not good.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:49 amWould it still be evil if one wasn't required to do so?1213 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:26 pmYes, I don’t think it would be good and I think it would be evil to require someone to do so.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:43 am The whole body is sacred then, in this "don't sell yourself" way. Not just the vagina. In other words, God didn't give you two arms so you could lop one off to trade for bread or a better life for your child. Do I have you correct here?...
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Post #26What's the difference between 'evil' and 'not good'?1213 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:55 pmNot necessary evil. I think it would just be not good.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:49 amWould it still be evil if one wasn't required to do so?1213 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:26 pmYes, I don’t think it would be good and I think it would be evil to require someone to do so.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:43 am The whole body is sacred then, in this "don't sell yourself" way. Not just the vagina. In other words, God didn't give you two arms so you could lop one off to trade for bread or a better life for your child. Do I have you correct here?...
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Post #27Evil is the cops pouring your beer out on the ground.nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:34 amWhat's the difference between 'evil' and 'not good'?1213 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:55 pmNot necessary evil. I think it would just be not good.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:49 amWould it still be evil if one wasn't required to do so?1213 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:26 pmYes, I don’t think it would be good and I think it would be evil to require someone to do so.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:43 am The whole body is sacred then, in this "don't sell yourself" way. Not just the vagina. In other words, God didn't give you two arms so you could lop one off to trade for bread or a better life for your child. Do I have you correct here?...
Not good is cause they done caught you DUI.
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Post #28It could be good for the one you were going to hit in your DUI stupor, though.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:21 amEvil is the cops pouring your beer out on the ground.nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:34 amWhat's the difference between 'evil' and 'not good'?1213 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:55 pmNot necessary evil. I think it would just be not good.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:49 amWould it still be evil if one wasn't required to do so?1213 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:26 pmYes, I don’t think it would be good and I think it would be evil to require someone to do so.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:43 am The whole body is sacred then, in this "don't sell yourself" way. Not just the vagina. In other words, God didn't give you two arms so you could lop one off to trade for bread or a better life for your child. Do I have you correct here?...
Not good is cause they done caught you DUI.
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Post #29I think evil means one purposefully wants to cause harm. Not good is something that is not good for person, but it is not necessarily done with the purpose to cause harm.nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:34 am ...
What's the difference between 'evil' and 'not good'?
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Post #30So, it seems, the 'intent' is the differentiation between these terms for you, no?1213 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:56 pmI think evil means one purposefully wants to cause harm. Not good is something that is not good for person, but it is not necessarily done with the purpose to cause harm.nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:34 am ...
What's the difference between 'evil' and 'not good'?
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