Christians: If you believe Jesus can save you then you don't believe God

[Avoice]

This is ONLY for Christians. Response by atheists and the like will be ignored.

You claim you are washed of all your sins through the sacrifice of Jesus.
Correct? Yes

You use the book of Leviticus to show that without the shedding of blood there is no atonement. Correct? Yes

You believe Jesus died once for all sins.
Correct? Yes

You claim that you are no longer under the law. That Jesus replaced it.
Correct? Yes

Now explain how one who says the laws are done away with think they can benefit from the laws of the sacrificial system? You have no protection under the law because you reject it. Moreover, even if you accepted the law Jesus was an unacceptable sacrifice. You need to read. The blood if the sacrifice MUST be placed on the alter. And it must be done at the temple. A disgusting place like Golgotha? Unacceptable!!

And explain how Jesus died was for all sins when the scripture tells us that in the messianic age the sacrificial system will be reinstated. Not only that but the messiah will offer a sacrifice for himself and also for the nation. Jesus, the demigod is said to be sinless. So why would he bring a sacrifice for his sins?

Lastly, sacrifices are ONLY good for unintentional sins. And need I say...most all our sins are intentional. We knew we were wrong when we did it. Even if the pagan act if human sacrifice was acceptable...and that Jesus was sacrificed in the temple and his blood out in the alter...the law states that he couldn't do much to help you.
That is how the law reads. God has made this clear. You may say you believe IN God. You just don't BELIEVE Him. Teaching your kids that it doesn't matter what God says. That a place called the Skull where dead bodies hang from trees is how you honor God. That a smelly filthy place is okay. Your Jesus is unacceptable. Why do you ignore God? He has explained the sacrificial system.

I'm curious what torturous explainations will be given. Christians talk about their love of "the word". Whose words do they obey? If Gods voice is 'the word' they claim to obey I'll know if that is true by how they answer.

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...the scripture tells us that in the messianic age the sacrificial system will be reinstated.
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Please show the scripture?

[Miles]

Lastly, sacrifices are ONLY good for unintentional sins. And need I say...most all our sins are intentional.

Q. What would an unintentional sin be?

We knew we were wrong when we did it.

Then how would it be unintentional?


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[Difflugia]

Lastly, sacrifices are ONLY good for unintentional sins. And need I say...most all our sins are intentional.

Q. What would an unintentional sin be?

We knew we were wrong when we did it.

Then how would it be unintentional?

Sin in the Torah is different than it is is the later Old Testament (the prophets in particular) and most of the New Testament. In the Torah, sin isn't a moral failing as such (though moral failings can be sins), but anything that separates a human being's connection to holiness. Touching a human corpse, for example, or an unclean animal without realizing it would be an unintentional sin.

Under influence of the Persians during the Exile and post-exilic period, sin became synonymous with immorality, so the idea of "unintentional sin" lost a bit of its meaning. Compare the language of sin in Ezekiel, for example, to that in Leviticus.

[Athetotheist]

...the scripture tells us that in the messianic age the sacrificial system will be reinstated.
...

Please show the scripture?

Ezekiel 45

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...the scripture tells us that in the messianic age the sacrificial system will be reinstated.
...

Please show the scripture?

Ezekiel 45

Please explain why do you think that is about Messianic age?

[Wootah]

[Replying to Avoice in post #1]

You claim that you are no longer under the law. That Jesus replaced it.
Correct? Yes

Incorrect. Jesus fulfilled it.

Jesus sacrifice is not just once for all but once for always. You can consider his sacrifice for me to be ongoing moment to moment. The sacrificial system was reinstated -every sin I commit, there is Jesus blood washing it away. It is for all time.

[Athetotheist]

...the scripture tells us that in the messianic age the sacrificial system will be reinstated.
...

Please show the scripture?

Ezekiel 45

Please explain why do you think that is about Messianic age?

Has "the prince" shown up at any time in the past?

[Aetixintro]

[Replying to Avoice in post #1]

Jesus said: Keep the commandments (the Law, The 10 Commandments). Matthew 19:17.

I believe that Judaists and Muslims have equally good chances to get to Heaven as they are indeed respected.

Science will also show that with sins and doing sins, Christianity wanes in people until they find themselves Atheists. Even doubt in Christianity increases with the sins. So there.

With the Commandment that says "respect your fellow (Christian) man", we should all take part in Jesus' suffering on the cross and see to it that worthy people like Jesus are never persecuted again.

Life belongs to God's righteous people because they are with God, firstly. Consistently doing sins leads people to Hell, an eternity without the presence of God.

IMO. All the best to you.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to Avoice in post #1]Jesus said: Keep the commandments (the Law, The 10 Commandments). Matthew 19:17.

....while he himself violated the Law:

Matthew 5:33-37 vs. Numbers 30:1-2, Deuteronomy 12:32

John 8:1-7 vs. Deuteronomy 22:22