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Is receiving Communion a requirement for gaining Eternal Life?

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Catholics place emphasis on the ritual known as Mass. It includes receiving the Eucharist, also known as Communion, where participants eat the body of Christ and drink his blood. Protestants also practice Communion thought they don't teach that it involves the actual blood and body of Christ. Some refer to it as the Lord's Supper.

This practice has been in the news recently as Pope Francis has suggested Biden continue to receive communion even though he is Pro-Choice. This has of course created quite a stir amongst the primarily Pro-Life Catholics. This caused me to wonder why Communion is so important to both Catholics and Protestants.

Is receiving Communion a requirement for gaining eternal life?

If not, why is so much emphasis placed on the practice?


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[Replying to bluegreenearth in post #10]
Have you ever noticed...
I think there's no one that hasn't noticed it that has a working brain. If they DO have a working brain and say 'No that doesn't happen!" they're liars pure and simple.
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bluegreenearth wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:05 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:50 am Biden stated that he didn't remember anyone telling him to keep residual forces in Afghanistan. Every one of his military advisers said they certainly had recommended that he keep a residual military force in Afghanistan. Either they are lying, or the guy is very forgetful. As for hearing what he wants, he dismissed the current polls saying he isn't doing so well.
Note: Admittedly, the following critical thinking question is tangential to the OP topic, but I thought it would be worth considering nonetheless:

Have you ever noticed that this type of defensive and possibly duplicitous posturing exhibited by of a prominent political figure is always immediately identified and confidently criticized by the people who didn't vote for that individual even though the exact same behavior is routinely exhibited by nearly all prominent political representatives of both parties in response to negative press? Given that a suspiciously "convenient" memory lapse or the propagation of an "alternative" fact appears to be a ubiquitous rhetorical tactic for managing negative press across the entire political spectrum these days, is it not equally disingenuous when average citizens deploy a disproportionate amount of skepticism and critical thinking towards this type of political messaging from representatives of the opposition party than they do for the same type of defensive posturing from their favored public figures?
To turn back to the topic, the millennium, the day of the Lord (Joel 2:23-3:2)(Zechariah 14)(Matthew 24) being with respect to the judgement of all the nations (Joel 3:2), is also accompanied by angels of death, as was done with regard to Passover, as presented in Revelation 8. Those barred from entering into the city (Jerusalem), would be sorcerers, immoral persons, murderers, and every who practices lying (Revelation 22-14-15). The only ones marked for protection, are those in whom no lie was found. The lies uncle Joe propulgates, is that abortion is not murder, which according to left, is anti racist, and showing of love, that Trump pressured the Ukraine, which was disproven, when Biden was the one who publicly pressured Ukraine, with respect to the company his son was working for, and whose base seems filled with the immoral and those who howl at the moon (witches), who fraudulently says he is not a socialist, while pushing a socialist agenda, who declares the US is raciest, when the democratic parties past military arm was the KKK, and he went to the funeral of the grand wizard. Their current fascist military arm is the BLM, and Antifa organizations, for which he says Antifa is simply an idea, and not an organization, if you can believe that. The corrupt media hides the fact that our emperor has no clothes, and is complicit in a wide range of policies which have killed and are killing US citizens. Now I know the left's response is the border crisis, inflation, Chicago murder rate, racism, Afghanistan debacle, and global warming, are Trump's fault, but Trump held office for 4 years, versus Biden's 50 years, and is out playing golf, and not sleeping through the present summit which has been going on in Scotland. And the people who outed Biden, where from his own party, and were his appointees. They couldn't lie under oath, because the NSA knows everything, and apparently they think the intelligent agencies leak, and lying to congress is a felony, which hopefully Fauci will soon realize. Plus there were transcripts floating around, with respect to the military and Fauci. Fauci may be thrown into the "pit" sooner than the devil (Revelation 20:1-3), which also happens following the day of the Lord, such as in Passover, when the angels of the lord gather out the tares and throws them into the furnace of fire (great tribulation) (Matthew 13:30).

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:50 am
Tcg wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:42 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:21 pm As for Biden's side, Biden would only hear what he wanted to hear, and forget what he heard before he walked out the door.
This is an interesting assertion. Can you provide any verifiable evidence to support it?


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Biden stated that he didn't remember anyone telling him to keep residual forces in Afghanistan. Every one of his military advisers said they certainly had recommended that he keep a residual military force in Afghanistan. Either they are lying, or the guy is very forgetful. As for hearing what he wants, he dismissed the current polls saying he isn't doing so well.
This is not evidence that Biden would have forgotten what the Pope said or only heard what he wanted. Do you have anything that would support your assertion concerning this particular meeting?


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nobspeople wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:52 am
Tcg wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:55 pm .
Catholics place emphasis on the ritual known as Mass. It includes receiving the Eucharist, also known as Communion, where participants eat the body of Christ and drink his blood. Protestants also practice Communion thought they don't teach that it involves the actual blood and body of Christ. Some refer to it as the Lord's Supper.

This practice has been in the news recently as Pope Francis has suggested Biden continue to receive communion even though he is Pro-Choice. This has of course created quite a stir amongst the primarily Pro-Life Catholics. This caused me to wonder why Communion is so important to both Catholics and Protestants.

Is receiving Communion a requirement for gaining eternal life?

If not, why is so much emphasis placed on the practice?


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Speaking as a past protestant, it's simply symbolic, nothing more.
I was never taught nor told it's necessary in anyway; fact is it was always seen as optional. Even when I was practicing, I often times sat out communion. It made little sense and seemed nothing more than a show. And if god couldn't see my heart, eating a wafer and drinking juice wouldn't have helped open its eyes.
I viewed Communion similarly when I was a Protestant. I wonder if some Protestants view it as more vital than we did?


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2ndpillar2 wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:25 pm To turn back to the topic, the millennium, the day of the Lord (Joel 2:23-3:2)(Zechariah 14)(Matthew 24) being with respect to the judgement of all the nations (Joel 3:2), is also accompanied by angels of death, as was done with regard to Passover, as presented in Revelation 8. Those barred from entering into the city (Jerusalem), would be sorcerers, immoral persons, murderers, and every who practices lying (Revelation 22-14-15). The only ones marked for protection, are those in whom no lie was found. The lies uncle Joe propulgates, is that abortion is not murder, which according to left, is anti racist, and showing of love, that Trump pressured the Ukraine, which was disproven, when Biden was the one who publicly pressured Ukraine, with respect to the company his son was working for, and whose base seems filled with the immoral and those who howl at the moon (witches), who fraudulently says he is not a socialist, while pushing a socialist agenda, who declares the US is raciest, when the democratic parties past military arm was the KKK, and he went to the funeral of the grand wizard. Their current fascist military arm is the BLM, and Antifa organizations, for which he says Antifa is simply an idea, and not an organization, if you can believe that. The corrupt media hides the fact that our emperor has no clothes, and is complicit in a wide range of policies which have killed and are killing US citizens. Now I know the left's response is the border crisis, inflation, Chicago murder rate, racism, Afghanistan debacle, and global warming, are Trump's fault, but Trump held office for 4 years, versus Biden's 50 years, and is out playing golf, and not sleeping through the present summit which has been going on in Scotland. And the people who outed Biden, where from his own party, and were his appointees. They couldn't lie under oath, because the NSA knows everything, and apparently they think the intelligent agencies leak, and lying to congress is a felony, which hopefully Fauci will soon realize. Plus there were transcripts floating around, with respect to the military and Fauci. Fauci may be thrown into the "pit" sooner than the devil (Revelation 20:1-3), which also happens following the day of the Lord, such as in Passover, when the angels of the lord gather out the tares and throws them into the furnace of fire (great tribulation) (Matthew 13:30).
Apparently, you didn't understand my question at all because nothing in your response serves as any kind of relevant answer. I've made no claim about whether Biden is or is not guilty of those accusations nor was my intention to debate those particulars. The nature of my inquiry was politically neutral. So, if you would be so courteous, I would appreciate receiving a response to the question I asked rather than being bombarded with politically biased rhetoric. Thanks.

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bluegreenearth wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:05 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:50 am Biden stated that he didn't remember anyone telling him to keep residual forces in Afghanistan. Every one of his military advisers said they certainly had recommended that he keep a residual military force in Afghanistan. Either they are lying, or the guy is very forgetful. As for hearing what he wants, he dismissed the current polls saying he isn't doing so well.
Note: Admittedly, the following critical thinking question is tangential to the OP topic, but I thought it would be worth considering nonetheless:

Have you ever noticed that this type of defensive and possibly duplicitous posturing exhibited by of a prominent political figure is always immediately identified and confidently criticized by the people who didn't vote for that individual even though the exact same behavior is routinely exhibited by nearly all prominent political representatives of both parties in response to negative press? Given that a suspiciously "convenient" memory lapse or the propagation of an "alternative" fact appears to be a ubiquitous rhetorical tactic for managing negative press across the entire political spectrum these days, is it not equally disingenuous when average citizens deploy a disproportionate amount of skepticism and critical thinking towards this type of political messaging from representatives of the opposition party than they do for the same type of defensive posturing from their favored public figures?
As I respect it might be off the OP, I gotta stand with 2ndpillar2 on this'n.

Biden bungled the retreat. He's a cognitively weak, empty suit of a plagiarizing liar.

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Tcg wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:55 pm ...
Is receiving Communion a requirement for gaining eternal life?
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Bible tells eternal life is for righteous, by what I know, it does not require Communion.

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:32 pm As I respect it might be off the OP, I gotta stand with 2ndpillar2 on this'n.

Biden bungled the retreat. He's a cognitively weak, empty suit of a plagiarizing liar.

I reject any argument he was bound to the pumpkin's timeline. A leader leads. A failure fails.
I neither agree nor disagree with your perspective as my knowledge of this particular political issue is not sufficient to justify an opinion at this point. The purpose of my inquiry was necessarily non-partisan in nature.

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1213 wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:02 pm
Tcg wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:55 pm ...
Is receiving Communion a requirement for gaining eternal life?
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Bible tells eternal life is for righteous, by what I know, it does not require Communion.

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23
The second verse doesn't support your assertion. In fact it contradicts it. It states that eternal life is a free gift.


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Tcg wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:23 pm It states that eternal life is a free gift.
As with Santa, you only get presents in your stocking if you've been a good boy/girl all year. If not, you get a lump of environmentally unfriendly coal. In the case of Jesus, that coal will be burning for eternity along with you. :D
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