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The Pine Barrens tree frog is well known in southern New Jersey and a few southeastern states.
This frog is tiny at about 1 - 1 1/2 inches long. If there were a global flood that killed all land animals except the few that were in Noah's ark, an ark that came aground in what is now called Turkey, how did this tiny frog find it's way to southern New Jersey?
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The Pine Barrens Tree Frog and the Flood.
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Post #2A pair of them rode on the back of a sea turtle that Jesus miraculously prevented from submerging.
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Post #3I've heard some present quite seriously that animal life may have spread by riding on logs. I'm not sure what the average speed of a floating log is, but that'd result a rather long trip to survive absent food and fresh water. Of course if we rely on God-magic of some sort, details such as food and water matters little.
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Post #4Frogs are a bad choice to prove religious people wrong.
>> They die and then rise from the dead.
>> They rain down from the heavens as mana. (This one ostensibly answers the OP.)
>> Just about anything kills them, even eachother, even their food, to the point that it makes one wonder how evolution produced something so weak. One fungus extincted over 90 species.
>> They can walk on water.
>> They die and then rise from the dead.
>> They rain down from the heavens as mana. (This one ostensibly answers the OP.)
>> Just about anything kills them, even eachother, even their food, to the point that it makes one wonder how evolution produced something so weak. One fungus extincted over 90 species.
>> They can walk on water.
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Post #5If the Pine Barrens tree frog spread due to rain, the rain would have had to fall in very specific environments where they live. Of course I guess it could be asserted that they rained down all over the U.S. and only survived in the environment they needed.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:48 pm Frogs are a bad choice to prove religious people wrong.
>> They die and then rise from the dead.
>> They rain down from the heavens as mana. (This one ostensibly answers the OP.)
>> Just about anything kills them, even eachother, even their food, to the point that it makes one wonder how evolution produced something so weak. One fungus extincted over 90 species.
>> They can walk on water.
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Post #6Or they could have spread due to rain, and quickly because hyperspecialised, virtually instantly dumping any and all adaptations to survive outside of exactly the conditions they're in, a process which frogs seem to be very, very good at. This is why they're so weak, and I do realise I'm answering my own joke here and making the Joker sad.
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Re: The Pine Barrens Tree Frog and the Flood.
Post #7They were toad across the sea.Tcg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:36 pm .
The Pine Barrens tree frog is well known in southern New Jersey and a few southeastern states.
This frog is tiny at about 1 - 1 1/2 inches long. If there were a global flood that killed all land animals except the few that were in Noah's ark, an ark that came aground in what is now called Turkey, how did this tiny frog find it's way to southern New Jersey?
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Re: The Pine Barrens Tree Frog and the Flood.
Post #8Out of the various explanations for the continent based - diversity of species, once we've stopped laughing at a hypothesis of Koalas being huffed by volcanoes from Turkey to Australia, is that Noah, who had been told which animals were going to be particular to which continent, herded then to their appointed parts of Pangaea and told them to hang on tight. The island -land -mass then split us according to heavenly decree and the various bits aquaplaned to their appointed locations. And as to why we have only Marsupials native to Australia but monkeys in the old and New worlds...God knows best.
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Post #9Interesting creatures; apparently tree frogs are found on every continent except Antarctica. Here is an extract I found on them:Tcg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:36 pm .
The Pine Barrens tree frog is well known in southern New Jersey and a few southeastern states.
This frog is tiny at about 1 - 1 1/2 inches long. If there were a global flood that killed all land animals except the few that were in Noah's ark, an ark that came aground in what is now called Turkey, how did this tiny frog find it's way to southern New Jersey?
Evolution and systematics
The earliest fossil Hylidae are from the Paleocene of Brazil; elsewhere, fossil hylids are known from as early as the Miocene in Australia, the Oligocene in North America, the Miocene in Europe, and the Pleistocene in Japan. The meager fossil data are consistent with a Gondwanan origin of the family, presumably in South America after its separation from Africa. Independent dispersals from South America were to Australia via Antarctica and to North America and subsequently to Eurasia.
Source: https://www.encyclopedia.com/environmen ... gs-hylidae
Scientists think the ancestors of modern frogs all laid their eggs in water. Maybe the red-eyed tree frog itself could have evolved its leaf-laying habits as a result of phenotypic plasticity. Maybe an ancestor dabbled in laying its eggs out of the water, only on really wet days, to get away from aquatic predators—a plastic way of dealing with a dangerous environment—and that trait got passed on to its descendants, which eventually lost the ability to lay eggs in water at all.
Nobody knows if that’s how it happened. “That was a very long time ago and no longer amenable to those kinds of experiments,” Warkentin says.
Source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... 165716397/
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Re: The Pine Barrens Tree Frog and the Flood.
Post #10This was first described by Fitzinger in 1843. It was later placed in the genus Hyla, true tree frogs, according to Boulenger in 1882. Fouquette and Dubois 2014, treated Dryophytes as a subgenus of Hyla. Dryophytes was finally resurrected as an independent genus by Duellman et al. in 2016. Only geographic differences, not morphological differences, separate Dryophytes from the genus Hyla. Hyla is found only in the Old World, while Dryophytes is distributed in the New World. Most members are found in North America, but three species occur in eastern temperate Asia; D. immaculata, D. japonica, and D. suweonensis.