Unforgivable sin

[nobspeople]

What is it?
How do you do it?
Why is it unforgivable (in your opinion)?
Why is it unforgivable (based on the bible)?
Can you do it without knowing?

What other 'need to know' bits about unforgivable sin can you offer that needs debated?

[Difflugia]

Is this an example of "speaking against the Holy Ghost" or simply connecting the dots re the storyline?

Yes.

[Miles]

[Replying to Miles in post #4]

How do you do it?

Blaspheme or speak against the Holy Ghost.

Why is it unforgivable (in your opinion)?

The Holy Ghost is extremely thin-skinned and highly vindictive. Not a nice combination at all.

Is this an example of "speaking against the Holy Ghost" or simply connecting the dots re the storyline?

Connecting the dots, as it were.


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[TRANSPONDER]

Any sin being unforgivable is theologically untenable, as it would essentially make sin more powerful than God.

Not necessary, because it can be that God just don't want to forgive all sins.

Nicely apologeticised. In the end it's not what God can or cannot do (unless the apologist is playing the 'God is not omnipotent or omnicognisant or both' game in which case I'd say he's lost before he starts) but what He decides to do or not do. 'My creation, my universe, My Rules'. How could it be any other way?

But God has His Plan.

Here - this explains how it works, nice and clear.

[William]

The simplest answer to this most mysterious conundrum is ;

Whatever the individual feels they have done which is unforgivable, then that is what unforgivable.

[Athetotheist]

Any sin being unforgivable is theologically untenable, as it would essentially make sin more powerful than God.

Not necessary, because it can be that God just don't want to forgive all sins.

Except.....

"'For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,' says the Lord God. 'Therefore turn and live!'" (Ezekiel 18:32)

"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentence." (2 Peter 3:9)

[Miles]

The simplest answer to this most mysterious conundrum is ;

Whatever the individual feels they have done which is unforgivable, then that is what unforgivable.

Did you mean to say,

"Whatever the individual feels they have done that is unforgivable, then that is what is unforgivable."?

If so, then wouldn't you be deciding what god cannot forgive?


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[TRANSPONDER]

The simplest answer to this most mysterious conundrum is ;

Whatever the individual feels they have done which is unforgivable, then that is what unforgivable.

What if they feel it's forgivable but someone else doesn't?

[TRANSPONDER]

Any sin being unforgivable is theologically untenable, as it would essentially make sin more powerful than God.

Not necessary, because it can be that God just don't want to forgive all sins.

Except.....

"'For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,' says the Lord God. 'Therefore turn and live!'" (Ezekiel 18:32)

"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentence." (2 Peter 3:9)

Other than the ones who have blasphemed against the Holy Spirit, I presume, unless the dubious 2 Peter knows better than Jesus, who said what would Not be forgiven, presumably even if they repented.

[William]

The simplest answer to this most mysterious conundrum is ;

Whatever the individual feels they have done which is unforgivable, then that is what is unforgivable.

What if they feel it's forgivable but someone else doesn't?

Then refusing to be forgiving has its own penalty on the unforgiving?

[Athetotheist]

Any sin being unforgivable is theologically untenable, as it would essentially make sin more powerful than God.

Not necessary, because it can be that God just don't want to forgive all sins.

Except.....

"'For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,' says the Lord God. 'Therefore turn and live!'" (Ezekiel 18:32)

"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentence." (2 Peter 3:9)

Other than the ones who have blasphemed against the Holy Spirit, I presume, unless the dubious 2 Peter knows better than Jesus, who said what would Not be forgiven, presumably even if they repented.

But there's also this twist:

"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." (John 6:44)

And this one:

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)