Why do people try to prove faith?

[nobspeople]

A popular thread here is, if the resurrection is if it's fact or faith based. A lot of thinking and word play has gone into several dozen pages trying to prove it's factual (BTWs...it's not factual, just in case you're wonderin').
There's been a lot of mental gymnastics done trying to prove it is. In regards to critical thinking (the objective analysis and evaluation of an issue in order to form a judgment), there seems that YES, critical thinking skills are required. After all, it takes a lot of effort to believe it at all!
But, outside of trying to prove something is factual, does faith (complete trust or confidence in someone or something; strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof), itself, faith doesn't seem to require critical thinking skills.

It seems faith only requires a few of things:
people with the need (for various reasons) to believe;
something to believe in &
a method to pontificate said belief.

For discussion:
Why do people feel the need to prove their belief (aka faith) is factual at all? Why can't they just be content with accepting 'Yeah, I believe in this by faith and that's good enough!'

[Miles]

For discussion:
Why do people feel the need to prove their belief (aka faith) is factual at all?

Because they don't realize that by definition belief (faith) is not fact---if it was a fact it would amount to knowledge, not belief---but in their ignorance they push forward in their need to be right, usually prompted by threatening opposition some kind.

Why can't they just be content with accepting 'Yeah, I believe in this by faith and that's good enough!'

Because they recognize the weakness of faith and sometimes attempt to strengthen it by putting it in a whole other category of conviction.


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[TRANSPONDER]

Faith (or 'buy -in') is a very powerful instinct. I have suffered from it for a long time and really, though I was always aware of the Other side of any argument, I was uncomfortably aware of the urge to defend my pet theory upon which I felt my personal credibility (in my own eyes even if nobody else cared) depended. It was really after getting into apologetics that I got my head around critical thinking and following the evidence. For the aspiring critical thinker, setting aside what one Wants to be true in favour of what actually Is true (so far as the best evidence goes) is an essential but hard lesson to learn. I should know, I have never learned it.

[nobspeople]

Faith (or 'buy -in') is a very powerful instinct. I have suffered from it for a long time and really, though I was always aware of the Other side of any argument, I was uncomfortably aware of the urge to defend my pet theory upon which I felt my personal credibility (in my own eyes even if nobody else cared) depended. It was really after getting into apologetics that I got my head around critical thinking and following the evidence. For the aspiring critical thinker, setting aside what one Wants to be true in favour of what actually Is true (so far as the best evidence goes) is an essential but hard lesson to learn. I should know, I have never learned it.

I foolishly expected at least one of those 'faith defenders' to jump in here. Silly me.

[JehovahsWitness]

Why do people feel the need to prove their belief (aka faith) is factual at all?

I can only speak for myself as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, for me its because I believe it is my Christian responsibility to do so. In short, my reading (my understanding) of the scriptures compels me to do so.

1 PETER 3:15

But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have ...

What I tell you in the darkness, tell in the light; and what you hear whispered in your ear, proclaim on the housetops - JESUS CHRIST

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[nobspeople]

Why do people feel the need to prove their belief (aka faith) is factual at all?

As a Christian it is because I believe it is my Christian responsibility to do so. My reading (my jnderstanding) of the scriptures compels me to do so.

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Nope
That says nothing about trying to prove a belief as factual.
This thread is not about defending one's faith (I'm not sure many would object to one defending their belief and ability to believe in it) but trying to prove something of faith as fact

[JehovahsWitness]

That says nothing about trying to prove a belief as factual.

It doesnt have to, as I said I feel compelled because of MY understanding of scripture. Regardless of what words are used that's why I feel compelled to prove my faith. I think you asked why people I feel a need to prove something of faith as fact. I am a person and they are my reason.

[nobspeople]

That says nothing about trying to prove a belief as factual.

It doesnt have to, as I said I feel compelled because of MY understanding of scripture. Regardless of what words are used that's why I feel compelled to prove my faith. I think you asked why people feel the need to prove their belief and I am a person and have explained why.

But having to prove something is fact, not faith, which is what this thread is about, not your understanding of this or that.
To be clear, I didn't ask "why people feel the need to prove their belief", I asked "Why do people feel the need to prove their belief (aka faith) is factual at all?
Big difference.

[JehovahsWitness]

That says nothing about trying to prove a belief as factual.

It doesnt have to, as I said I feel compelled because of MY understanding of scripture. Regardless of what words are used that's why I feel compelled to prove my faith. I think you asked why people feel the need to prove their belief and I am a person and have explained why.

But having to prove something is fact, not faith, which is what this thread is about, not your understanding of this or that.

Okay, ... my answer to the OP is now as follows : the scriptures above are why I feel the need to try to prove something of faith as fact.

[nobspeople]

That says nothing about trying to prove a belief as factual.

It doesnt have to, as I said I feel compelled because of MY understanding of scripture. Regardless of what words are used that's why I feel compelled to prove my faith. I think you asked why people feel the need to prove their belief and I am a person and have explained why.

But having to prove something is fact, not faith, which is what this thread is about, not your understanding of this or that.

The scriptures above are why I Feel the need to try to prove something of faith as fact. You asked why and I have justntold you why

Then you misunderstand the scripture you supplied. It says nothing about proving anything as factual. The word 'fact' was no were in the supplied scripture.