Peace to you!
Tcg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:19 pm
tam wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:29 pm
Peace to you,
I have not read through the rest of the thread, so I apologize if this has already been brought up:
Tcg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:40 pm
tam wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:17 pm
Instead of all mankind coming to an end in 120 years, though, God made an exception for Noah and his family (due to Noah's faith), and mankind would continue through them. (And though it is not written, had other actual men/women exercised faith - as Noah did - and come to the ark, they too could have been survived.)
Peace again to you!
This last bit doesn't match what is written in the story. Even before building the ark God tells Noah exactly who would be boarding the ark and it is limited to Noah, his wife, his three sons and there wives. There is no provision for any others.
Tcg
Might not have been necessary to mention it if God knew only Noah had that faith. But it is just a few paragraphs describing what would have been a huge event.
But we do have an example from Christ, and example that He (the Truth and Image of God) gave us, even if there were no written provisions made for the Flood.
A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
23 [Jesus] did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
28 Then [Jesus] said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.
He was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel (and she was not one of those), but because of her
faith, he granted her request.
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
This is a totally different situation. God didn't make any absolute statements beforehand about what would happen to this woman.
But Christ did. Christ said that He came only for the lost sheep of Israel (which was why He was not responding to the woman). But He then made an exception for the woman because of her faith.
He did in the case of the flood and at least according to the story it played out exactly as God said it would.
If no one else had faith, there may not have been a need to mention it. That doesn't mean an exception would not have been made for a person who DID have (and demonstrate) that faith.
Another problem is the use of a much later tale written presumable by one of Jesus' followers and suggesting it would apply to an ancient Hebrew God.
I suppose it depends upon what God one is speaking of. At the least, it shows a precedent (even if the account in the NT is coming after the flood). Because God - the God and Father of Christ - is as Christ reveals Him to be. So that we can know the Ancient (of Days, see Daniel 7) only by knowing His Son.
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy