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Another Circular Circular.

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Apparently due to the pandemic, the JWs have taken to mailing out their circulars rather than knocking on doors and handing them out personally or leaving them in mailboxes if they get no answer. The latest I've gotten in the mail asks, "How do you view the future?" As is often the case, the first part refers to the Bible to answer the question on the cover and the second part purports to answer the question, "Can we really believe what the Bible says?" Oddly the second part contains a total of eight biblical references to support the claim that one can.

Does it make logical sense to accept the verses supporting the Bible as evidence the Bible should be believed?

Do some who receive this circular circular not notice its circular nature?


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Re: Another Circular Circular.

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Tcg wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:37 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:27 am
Tcg wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:17 am ... I refuse to answer the door ...
No harm no foul.

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Of course there's a foul. Leaving circulars in a U.S. Postal mailbox that aren't sent through U.S. mail is illegal. ...

I have never done that; and I am certain our organisation has never instructed anyone to . I hope that any Witnesses that do break the law in this regard were swiftly brought to justice. We have been instructed to send letters through the post which is what I do.


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Re: Another Circular Circular.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:44 am
Tcg wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:37 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:27 am
Tcg wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:17 am ... I refuse to answer the door ...
No harm no foul.

JW
Of course there's a foul. Leaving circulars in a U.S. Postal mailbox that aren't sent through U.S. mail is illegal. ...

I have never done that; and I am certain our organisation has never instructed anyone to . I hope that any Witnesses that do break the law in this regard were swiftly brought to justice. We have been instructed to send letters through the post which is what I do.
Sure, in an organization that refuses to address sexual abuse you expect JWs to be brought to justice for breaking U.S. postal laws? Seriously?


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Tcg wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:48 am .... you expect JWs to be brought to justice for breaking U.S. postal laws? Seriously?
I'm always serious about serious matters. But getting back to the OP, my expectations were not mentioned as the topic for discussion. Was the pamphlet you received sent illegally?



Tcg wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:47 am .

Apparently due to the pandemic, the JWs have taken to mailing out their circulars rather than knocking on doors and handing them out personally or leaving them in mailboxes if they get no answer. The latest I've gotten in the mail asks, "How do you view the future?"
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Re: Another Circular Circular.

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[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #121]

Nice edit. More landfill fodder. I especially like the personal touch "The Resident."


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Tcg wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:02 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #121]

... I especially like the personal touch "The Resident."
Yes, me too. I also always hand write my letters although some of our older folk and those with handicaps are simply unable to do so.

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Re: Another Circular Circular.

Post #126

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:04 am
Tcg wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:02 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #121]

Nice edit. More landfill fodder. I especially like the personal touch "The Resident."


Tcg
Yes, me too. I also always hand write my letters although some of our older folk and those with handicaps are simply unable to do so.

JW
None of this addresses the perfectly unpersonal aspect of mailings addressed to "The Resident." It's no different than the mass spam mailings sent out by other organizations.


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Re: Another Circular Circular.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:00 am I'm always serious about serious matters. But getting back to the OP, my expectations were not mentioned as the topic for discussion. Was the pamphlet you received sent illegally?
How serious are you about addressing the sexual abuse that occurs within your organization?


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Re: Another Circular Circular.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:04 am
Tcg wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:02 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #121]

... I especially like the personal touch "The Resident."
Yes, me too. I also always hand write my letters although some of our older folk and those with handicaps are simply unable to do so.

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Ah, yes. Look at the happy couple thrilled that they no longer have to walk the streets to fulfill their monthly time quotas.


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Tcg wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:09 am

None of this addresses the perfectly unpersonal aspect of mailings addressed to "The Resident." It's no different than the mass spam mailings sent out by other organizations.


Tcg
I see what you mean. Yes, it is usually best to put the householders name if possible.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:17 am
Tcg wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:09 am

None of this addresses the perfectly unpersonal aspect of mailings addressed to "The Resident." It's no different than the mass spam mailings sent out by other organizations.


Tcg
I'see what you mean. Yes it is usually best to put the householders name if possible.
Sure, a simple Google search, just like the ones used by SPAM phone callers, adds that personal touch. Do you want to lower your utility bills? Do you want to reduce your credit card interest rate? Do you want to find Jesus? All are as equally personal.


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To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.

- American Atheists


Not believing isn't the same as believing not.

- wiploc


I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.

- Irvin D. Yalom

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