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Apparently due to the pandemic, the JWs have taken to mailing out their circulars rather than knocking on doors and handing them out personally or leaving them in mailboxes if they get no answer. The latest I've gotten in the mail asks, "How do you view the future?" As is often the case, the first part refers to the Bible to answer the question on the cover and the second part purports to answer the question, "Can we really believe what the Bible says?" Oddly the second part contains a total of eight biblical references to support the claim that one can.
Does it make logical sense to accept the verses supporting the Bible as evidence the Bible should be believed?
Do some who receive this circular circular not notice its circular nature?
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Post #1To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
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Post #81Tcg wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:50 amYou've presented it for us ...JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:45 amNo, I have yet to be shown any evidence the publishers Jehovah's Witness literature have made the "error" you speak about. Do you have an example from the official website to show me?
I have not presented anything from the official Jehovahs Witness website that references the Psalms incorrectly.
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Post #82Of course, you have. The image you've stripped off from this conversation reveals it.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:57 amTcg wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:50 amYou've presented it for us ...JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:45 amNo, I have yet to be shown any evidence the publishers Jehovah's Witness literature have made the "error" you speak about. Do you have an example from the official website to show me?
I have not presented anything from the official Jehovahs Witness website that references the Psalms incorrectly.
Another reminder it is the Psalms plural, a Psalm singular. It'd be like saying the gospels of John is such and such and so forth. The fact is that the anonymous gospel John is a single book. The proper phrase would be the gospel (singular) John.
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- Irvin D. Yalom
- American Atheists
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Post #83You mean this one ...?
The post cards are NOT from the Watchtower Society they are from ETSY. ETSY is a an online shopping site not affiliated with the Watchtower in any way.
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1100371 ... ecQAvD_BwE
My bad I should have sourced the image, sorry.
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Post #84Odd then that you'd suggest this as a resolution:JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:14 am
You mean this one ...?
The post cards are NOT from the Watchtower Society they are from ETSY. ETSY is a an online shopping site not affiliated with the Watchtower in any way.
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1100371 ... ecQAvD_BwE
My bad I should have sourced the image, sorry.
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Why would you suggest contacting www.jw.org. if they were not responsible for the image you posted?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:09 am
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- Irvin D. Yalom
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
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Post #85Tcg wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:22 am Why would you suggest contacting www.jw.org. if they were not responsible for the image you posted?
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Because you suggested contacting them, I thought it was because you wanted to help them avoid the error *I* had made.
I'm sorry for the confusion it was entirely my fault for not sourcing the ETSY image. I usually do and it was an oversight on my part. So to clarify, the Watchtower society do not publish the cards I featured. Individual Witnesses make (or buy) cards and write letters to send to those they wish to contact. The Watchtower publications can ONLY be accessed on the official Jehovahs Witness website.
Again my sincere apologies for the confusion, my bad!
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Post #86I didn't (hou?) suggest contacting them.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:38 amTcg wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:22 am []
Why would you suggest contacting www.jw.org. if they were not responsible for the image you posted?
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Because hou suggested contacting them.
This is almost completely incomprehensible. Regardless, it doesn't address the circular nature of this circular circular.
I'm sorry for the confusion it ds entirely my fault for not sourcing the ETSY image. I usually do and it was an oversight on my part. So to clarify, the Watchtower society do not publiés the cards I featured. Individual Witnesses make (or buy) cards and write letters to send to those they wish to contact, the Watchtower publications can only be assessed on the official Jehovahs Witness website.
Again my sincere apologie,
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To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
- American Atheists
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- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
- Irvin D. Yalom
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
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Post #87Sorry about that, I will try to be clearer: The Watchtower Bible and Tract society, the corporation used by the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses, did not produce the cards featured in the image.
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Post #88And yet you, clearly a representative of JWs given your avatar ID and all, presented the cards in an attempt to support their, your, position.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:49 amSorry about that, I will try to be cleaer: The Watchtower Bible and Tract society, the corporation used by the governing body of Jehovahs Witnesses, did not produce the cards featured in the image.
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To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
- Irvin D. Yalom
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
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- Irvin D. Yalom
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Post #89I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses affliliated with the publishers by faith (ie we have the same religion) but I am not a representative of The Watchtower Bible & Tract societythat publishes JW literature.
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Post #90Perhaps, but this still does not resolve the circular nature of the circular your organization and you as an individual JW pushes.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:03 amI am one of Jehovah's Witnesses affliliated with the publishers by faith (ie we have the same religion) but I am not a representative of the Watchtower Bible & Tract society that publishes JW literature.
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To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
- Irvin D. Yalom
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
- Irvin D. Yalom
