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Ten Commandments

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Ask 1000 christians "What, exactly, counts as 'a sin'?" and you'd probably get various answers. Most, somewhere in the conversation, would likely visit the Ten Commandments. Fair enough, I suppose. But are there other things that aren't included in the Ten Commandments - outliers - that are also sin?
Some say it's a sin to smoke, drink, do drugs, curse. Some say those are OK so long as you're not over indulging in them.
Some say it's a sin to kill another human being, while others say it's not if it pertains to justice and or self defense.
Some say it's a sin to blaspheme, yet many can't agree on what that is, exactly.
Some say it's a sin to disobey god, while others say it's not a sin, just not a good idea.
Some say it's a sin to be gay, while others say it's not, but the act it, while others still say being gay is not an issue.
Some say it's a sin to have sex before marriage, while others say it's not, while others still say having sex is a union and thus, dictates being married.

It seems that, if sin separates one from god, it's an important enough concept in which everyone should be able to fully grasp.

So, assuming violating the 10 CMDMTS is a sin, are there other things that are sinful as well? If yes, what are they, exactly? If not, is it safe to say obeying the 10 CMDMTS is a sure-fire way to avoid sin?
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Re: Ten Commandments

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1213 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:56 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:14 am ... The lie starts where once the mistake is pointed out, and we then we get denial, evasion and abuse. A mistake is excusable, denial is not. Even there, Faith comes into it; there may be disagreement about what has been disproved, up to and including science - denial. Evolution and deep time is denied, a non - flat earth and a heliocentric system is not. Science denial seems to keep a close eye on what they can get away with and what will make them a laughing - stock. And rationalization comes in here. The clearly Babylonian snowdome -cosmos of Genesis is denied (because they will get laffs) and they will try to pretend that Genesis is actually talking about a round earth, heliocentric solar system and expanding universe.
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It is not necessary lying or wrong, if someone doesn’t accept your interpretations and beliefs as truth.

I touched on that above. "..we have gone beyond a mistake (recycling apologetics without research) through rationalization (trying to fiddle the facts to save the case) to denial of the facts. And that is as near lying as makes no difference, and faith based denial.... well, we may pity the deluded, but at the same time (as we know)they can be dangerous. Not just to science and education (trying to teach the Bible instead of science) but to society.."

Mistakes are one thing, knowingly misrepresenting is another and in between is trying to maintain the belief in the face of compelling evidence. I have tried to cover all the aspects from honest (if misguided) belief to impudent denial n the face of compelling evidence. And all shades of trying to maintain the Faith with increasing denialism. Though some will simply drop into silence (and maybe pop up some time later, with the same claims - the "Deep Dive" as we call it.

So long as we are clear about the mental processes, dickering about what's a lie and what isn't is a bit if a red herring. And may be deliberate misdirection - all part of the Lie.

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