Why are American atheists a bunch of white guys?

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Why are American atheists a bunch of white guys?

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According to Pew: Americans who identify as atheist are 68% men and 78% white.

American Christians, by comparison, are 48% men and 66% white, which is nearly identical to the national average.

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Why are American atheists disproportionately male?

Why are American atheists disproportionately white?
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historia wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:29 pm According to Pew: Americans who identify as atheist are 68% men and 78% white.

American Christians, by comparison, are 48% men and 66% white, which is nearly identical to the national average.

Questions for debate:

Why are American atheists disproportionately male?

Why are American atheists disproportionately white?
Female "atheist" are often feminist, and don't align with men, and often call themselves witches. They actually have a god, as atheist actually have gods, and apparently it is the devil, who apparently lives on the moon, for they often howl at the moon. They just are not interested in a law giving God. They are more into housekeeping, as they often carry brooms, probably to clean up after the orgies they make up in their minds.

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[Replying to historia in post #1]
My guess is that it's a hand-me-down from the "Enlightenment thinking" which sprang up in Europe. It isn't really about "white"-ness so much as about a particular historical phenomenon.

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:38 pm
historia wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:29 pm According to Pew: Americans who identify as atheist are 68% men and 78% white.

American Christians, by comparison, are 48% men and 66% white, which is nearly identical to the national average.

Questions for debate:

Why are American atheists disproportionately male?

Why are American atheists disproportionately white?
Female "atheist" are often feminist, and don't align with men, and often call themselves witches. They actually have a god, as atheist actually have gods, and apparently it is the devil, who apparently lives on the moon, for they often howl at the moon. They just are not interested in a law giving God. They are more into housekeeping, as they often carry brooms, probably to clean up after the orgies they make up in their minds.
People who call themselves witches are typically Wiccans.

Atheists don't have gods; that's what makes them atheists.

Wiccans honor Pagan deities, but what makes it "apparent" that any of them is "the devil"? (I've met numerous Wiccans and I've never known any of them to "howl at the moon".)

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:38 pm
They actually have a god, as atheist actually have gods...
No, we don't. But in a thread designed to misrepresent atheists it's not surprising to find a post misrepresenting atheists.


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Athetotheist wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:46 pm
Atheists don't have gods; that's what makes them atheists.
Indeed, odd that so many have difficulty understanding this astonishingly clear reality.


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Athetotheist wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:35 pm [Replying to historia in post #1]
My guess is that it's a hand-me-down from the "Enlightenment thinking" which sprang up in Europe. It isn't really about "white"-ness so much as about a particular historical phenomenon.
My guess is that we have examined the current claims for god/gods and found them totally lacking.


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I don't know the answer to that. I would prefer that it wasn't the case. There are some very fine female atheist presenters (regulars on atheist experience] and I have seen some good videos from black deconverts or doubters at least, male an female. They are there and I just wish there was more scope for them to be given more air time outside their own site.

They say you can't herd cats. Which may be why we (atheists) seem poor at getting Organized. I had hopes that the 'Nones' could become an organisation, not just a Demographic. National, branches in counties, and even Global, and don't we need it. But it all seems to have vanished.

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historia wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:29 pmWhy are American atheists disproportionately male?

Why are American atheists disproportionately white?
Considering some of the other things that correlate with atheism like higher education (mentioned at the page you linked) and higher income (addressed by another Pew study), I suspect that the correlation with white men is based on social and economic privilege rather than something innate that somehow gives white men a keener insight into the nature of religion. I'd guess that controlling for things like education level would cause much of the race and gender gap to disappear.

If we want atheism to be more representative, the answer is to increase overall access to education and decrease income disparities based on gender and race.
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Tcg wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:39 am
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:38 pm
They actually have a god, as atheist actually have gods...
No, we don't. But in a thread designed to misrepresent atheists it's not surprising to find a post misrepresenting atheists.


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