Veridican wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:17 am
If you will allow yourself to imagine what God really is, then you won't have a problem.
JoeyKnothead wrote:
"If you'll just play make believe."
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if we are going to have a constructive dialogue, you're going to have to be able to at least imagine a God.
My point there is in your saying it's others who'll have a "problem", while it's
your problem to convince others of the veracity of your claims.
If you can't do that then you're just a fundamental atheist.
False dichotomy. Not theists agree on what God is or has to allow.
Beyond that, I'm willing to change my position based on confirmable information.
Atheism is simply a religion for you that you never bother to question.
Projection. In this instance atheism is merely a lack of belief in your god claims.
You're no different than a Christian or a Muslim.
And you're no different than a preacher.
Maybe if you quit fretting on others you'd be more convincing.
And you're no scientist either because you won't even entertain the hypothesis that God exists.
I don't entertain the hypothesis that the Easter Bunny exists either.
I'm here to debate the merits of claims. If you find such a condition too upsetting, maybe debate ain't for you.
God, being
the monistic entity, is the only thing that really exists.
JoeyKnothead wrote:
Insert 1 each, individual, assertion, unevidenced.
It doesn't have to be evidenced.
I'm aware many theists prefer to forego evidence, up to and including within debate.
It's either true or not true.
So the claimant is expected to show their claims're truth, or have the honor to retract claims they can't support
There's not going to be any physical evidence.
That's a problem for the claimant, not me.
God, if He exists, is a product of MIND, not chemistry or biology.
If.
God, if he exists, is not the product of a mind, but of chemistry or biology.
See how we can "if" us up any gods we desire?
And we would have to prove Him by mental means, not physical means.
Just how we prove the Easter Bunny.
That said, the physical universe does bear out his existence.
Agreed.
The only appropriate response to God is to fear Him, worship Him,
JoeyKnothead wrote:
I don't worship nothing I fear.
Let me ask you a question: Have you ever been truly depressed in your life?
And truly elated.
JoeyKnothead wrote:
Cept the pretty thing, she let's me see her nekkid.
I have no idea what that means, but if you're mentally unbalanced, then there's no point in this conversation.
How does my mental condition show your god claims are truth?
JoeyKnothead wrote:
I have the choice to wait and see if you're gonna put truth to your claims, or just go ahead and conclude you're just another preacher.
Oh no, and I don't care if they ban me for this, but I'm not putting the Veridican Argument on this website.
You'll either support your claims, or ya won't.
That will only be on mine. If you want to argue it. That's where I argue it, and I won't promote my site here. If you can't figure out where I am with a Google search, then you'll have to PM me. And that's all I have to say about this.
"I won't argue here where I've made my claims, but if you'll fetch on off to
my website, which I'm totally not promoting here, but if ya can't find
my website, just google it, but anyway, what I was getting at is I ain't gonna support my claims here where I made 'em, but on
my website, which I'm not in any way promoting here on this'n, where I refuse to argue for the veracity of my claims."
Or... "Just come to
my website, where I make the rules."
Why is it so dang hard to get some of these theists to debate in a manner that at least resembles honor?
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin