If we spend an hour per day worshiping Odin or Quetzalcoatl, that equates to fifteen 24-hour days per year. Would that be wasted time? There are, literally, thousands of 'gods' promoted by religions.
How can it be determined (beyond anyone's opinion) which, if any, of the proposed 'gods' are worthy of our time, effort, and resources?
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ANY of the thousands of "gods" proposed, imagined, worshiped, loved, feared, and/or fought over by humans MAY exist -- awaiting verifiable evidence
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Kindly present the available VERIFIABLE evidence that any of the thousands of proposed 'gods' are worthy of our time, effort, and resources. Verifiable does not include ancient or modern tales that cannot be checked for accuracy – no 'take my word (or his) for it' will suffice in reasoned discussion.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:09 pm I think it can be done the same way it is determined whether one should be an atheist or not, namely by making déeductions based on rational thought and analysis of the available evidence.
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Post #22Did I claim there was any? I took your "how" to mean : by what methodology(ie what would be the process). If that was not what you were asking, please clarify.Zzyzx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:25 pm .Kindly present the available VERIFIABLE evidence that any of the thousands of proposed 'gods' are worthy of our time, effort, and resources. ...JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:09 pm I think it can be done the same way it is determined whether one should be an atheist or not, namely by making deductions based on rational thought and analysis of the available evidence.
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If such a claim is made, the claimant is likely to be asked to present said evidence (which seems to be in short supply)
Thanks. It is wise to avoid claiming that there is "VERIFIABLE evidence that any of the thousands of proposed 'gods' are worthy of our time, effort, and resources."
If such a claim is made, the claimant is likely to be asked to present said evidence (which seems to be in short supply)
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Post #24[Replying to Tcg in post #12]
There are those who do thar. They wirship The Great Spaghetti Monster.
I wouldn't be surprised if they refer to the heads of thier groups, as "Pasta's".
There are those who do thar. They wirship The Great Spaghetti Monster.
I wouldn't be surprised if they refer to the heads of thier groups, as "Pasta's".
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Post #25Time cannot really be wasted, as far as I can assertain.
Even death is simply transfering the personality to another reality experience.
My life time hasnt been wasted on learning how to maintain a conscious connect with the almighty mind behind creation.
It is like looking at a reflection and loving what is seen.
Even death is simply transfering the personality to another reality experience.
My life time hasnt been wasted on learning how to maintain a conscious connect with the almighty mind behind creation.
It is like looking at a reflection and loving what is seen.
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Post #26[Replying to William in post #25]
But one can perceived time being wasted, which is how I 'took' the OP. But, as everything is related to the individual, it's up to the individual to tell if 'their time' has been 'wasted'. Or, maybe better said, better spent on other things?
That depends on who is asked, I suspect. Personally, it doesn't matter to me either way. And while, literally, you're right that time can't be wasted, in that vein, much of experienced reality can't literally be wasted.My life time hasnt been wasted on learning how to maintain a conscious connect with the almighty mind behind creation.
But one can perceived time being wasted, which is how I 'took' the OP. But, as everything is related to the individual, it's up to the individual to tell if 'their time' has been 'wasted'. Or, maybe better said, better spent on other things?
Exactly. Perception.It is like looking at a reflection and loving what is seen.
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Post #27From what I have come to know, the mind which caused this creation, is capable of acting the part of every god-concept imaginable.
Does that make such a mind unworhty of our time¿
More to the point re this reality, why do we suppose that any one of us are not doing our time serving that mind, whatever it is we are involved with, wheather we know it or not?
I make no claims which cant be varified by scientific means. That mind can be shown to speak for itself, rather than just through others...If such a claim is made, the claimant is likely to be asked to present said evidence (which seems to be in short supply)
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Post #28True. Now we have finished discussing what has not been said, as well as your speculations (which I do not recall asking you about) ... is there anything that I 8did write that you would like to challenge? Or that you believe is untrue?Zzyzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:29 am .Thanks. It is wise to avoid claiming that there is "VERIFIABLE evidence that any of the thousands of proposed 'gods' are worthy of our time, effort, and resources."
If such a claim is made, the claimant is likely to be asked to present said evidence (which seems to be in short supply)
Your question ...
I will remind you or what I wrote in my post in case you have forgotten
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:09 pm I think it can be done the same way it is determined whether one should be an atheist or not, namely by making deductions based on rational thought and analysis of the available evidence.
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Post #29When I look in a mirror, I prefer to find something else to love.William wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:08 pm Time cannot really be wasted, as far as I can assertain.
Even death is simply transfering the personality to another reality experience.
My life time hasnt been wasted on learning how to maintain a conscious connect with the almighty mind behind creation.
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Post #30We all love you, TRANSPONDER.TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:10 pmWhen I look in a mirror, I prefer to find something else to love.William wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:08 pm Time cannot really be wasted, as far as I can assertain.
Even death is simply transfering the personality to another reality experience.
My life time hasnt been wasted on learning how to maintain a conscious connect with the almighty mind behind creation.
It is like looking at a reflection and loving what is seen.
Don't we....?
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