God is using Russia to fulfill a prophecy

[nobspeople]

According to Pat Robinson (unfortunately there's no Grimm Reaper smilie available) Russia is being used by god to fulfill prophecy (who god can't do its own dirty work is another raging question, but it's not the first time we hear this from biblical 'know-it-alls' like patty).

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pat-robertso ... 45780.html


Is this true?


It's worth noting, about good, ancient patty:
Robertson, who turns 92 this month, is a serial doomsday cheerleader: in the 1970s, he predicted a 1982 ending, the 1990s, he predicted a 2007 ending, 2020, he predicted Donald Trump would win reelection ― “without question” ― and it would lead to the end. (In that case, it wasn’t a war that would end the world, as he is currently predicting, but something a lot more natural, like an asteroid.)

[We_Are_VENOM]

That is correct. I dont think there are any Christian groups that do not believe in "the second coming" or some interpretation of "the end of the world". The notion of the risen Christ returning, is one of the bedrocks of the Christian faith although atheists and non-Christians might laugh at believers.

That one went over your head, apparently.

Jehovah's Witnesses and many Christians still believe and try and apply what Jesus said, as amusing as that might be to those that dismiss scripture...

And who is dismissing scripture here?

[Tcg]

That is correct. I dont think there are any Christian groups that do not believe in "the second coming" or some interpretation of "the end of the world".

Of course there are. All it takes to be a Christian is to follow what one believes to be the teaching of Jesus Christ. This doesn't require one to believe in the absurdity of the "second coming."

The notion of the risen Christ returning, is one of the bedrocks of the Christian faith although atheists and non-Christians might laugh at believers.

I for one don't laugh at this although there is an element of amusement. More so there is sadness that folks would live their whole lives expecting something that there is no possible way to provide evidence of. Very sad really. It reveals how desperate humans are to find comfort of any kind wherever they can find it.


Tcg

[brunumb]

More so there is sadness that folks would live their whole lives expecting something that there is no possible way to provide evidence of. Very sad really. It reveals how desperate humans are to find comfort of any kind wherever they can find it.

Even sadder that there are manipulative people who will take advantage of that desperate need and use it to control their lives in a way that is usually to their own personal advantage regardless of any harm that is done in the process.

[Tcg]

More so there is sadness that folks would live their whole lives expecting something that there is no possible way to provide evidence of. Very sad really. It reveals how desperate humans are to find comfort of any kind wherever they can find it.

Even sadder that there are manipulative people who will take advantage of that desperate need and use it to control their lives in a way that is usually to their own personal advantage regardless of any harm that is done in the process.

Indeed. And while it is much more complex, there is no reason to believe it is fundamentally different than this guy's claims.




Tcg

[We_Are_VENOM]

Of course there are. All it takes to be a Christian is to follow what one believes to be the teaching of Jesus Christ. This doesn't require one to believe in the absurdity of the "second coming."

See, that is where you are WRONG.

How about this; wipe the dust off your Bible, and open to Matt 24:30.

Now, that being said...

1. All it takes to be a Christian is to follow what one believes to be the teachings of Jesus Christ (according to you).

2. Jesus taught/spoke of a "second coming".

3. Therefore, to be a Christian, you must believe in a "second coming".

Next..

I for one don't laugh at this although there is an element of amusement. More so there is sadness that folks would live their whole lives expecting something that there is no possible way to provide evidence of.

Let us do us, while you do you.

And besides...

1 Corin 1:18 "For the message of the cross is FOOLISHNESS to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."

You do view all of this salvation/second-coming stuff as foolishness, dont you?

Ahh yes, it all makes sense now.

Very sad really. It reveals how desperate humans are to find comfort of any kind wherever they can find it.

Ahhh yes. The good ole genetic fallacy. Gotta love it.

[Tcg]

[Replying to We_Are_VENOM in post #126]

Nope. Not all those who follow what they believe to be the teachings of Jesus accept the reported words of Jesus in the Bible.


Tcg

[We_Are_VENOM]

[Replying to We_Are_VENOM in post #126]

Nope. Not all those who follow what they believe to be the teachings of Jesus accept the reported words of Jesus in the Bible.

Tcg

Reading comprehension.

Then none of those folks would belong to any of the "Christian groups" that Jehovah's Witness was referring to.

[JehovahsWitness]

I am a prophet myself, and today I want to tell you all that something is going to happen at some point in the future ...

That's basically what prophecying is; not all are date specific but most all refer to a future event of some description. Interpretations vary.


JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

[nobspeople]

According to Pat Robinson (unfortunately there's no Grimm Reaper smilie available) Russia is being used by god to fulfill prophecy (who god can't do its own dirty work is another raging question, but it's not the first time we hear this from biblical 'know-it-alls' like patty).

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pat-robertso ... 45780.html


Is this true?

In a weird way, sort of. Jesus said that there would be "wars and rumors of wars." And he was right. We are experiencing those wars and rumors of wars. However, where Robison saw this as a sign of the end of the age, Jesus said said that these things would continue to happen and that they are not a sign of the end.

My mother claims this, too. I always tell her there will always be 'wars and rumors of wars' so long as people exist. That means nothing other than that.
She doesn't like to hear it, but the truth can be hurtful.

[JehovahsWitness]

That is correct. I dont think there are any Christian groups that do not believe in "the second coming" or some interpretation of "the end of the world".

Of course there are.

I would be interested if you could provide evidence of your claim, can you?