God is using Russia to fulfill a prophecy

[nobspeople]

According to Pat Robinson (unfortunately there's no Grimm Reaper smilie available) Russia is being used by god to fulfill prophecy (who god can't do its own dirty work is another raging question, but it's not the first time we hear this from biblical 'know-it-alls' like patty).

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pat-robertso ... 45780.html


Is this true?


It's worth noting, about good, ancient patty:
Robertson, who turns 92 this month, is a serial doomsday cheerleader: in the 1970s, he predicted a 1982 ending, the 1990s, he predicted a 2007 ending, 2020, he predicted Donald Trump would win reelection ― “without question” ― and it would lead to the end. (In that case, it wasn’t a war that would end the world, as he is currently predicting, but something a lot more natural, like an asteroid.)

[benchwarmer]

I would be interested if you could provide evidence of your claim, can you?

This is some interesting data on the subject:

https://www.pewforum.org/2009/04/09/chr ... of-christ/

According to that survey, 17% of US Christians don't believe in the second coming of Jesus.

[Tcg]

I would be interested if you could provide evidence of your claim, can you?

This is some interesting data on the subject:

https://www.pewforum.org/2009/04/09/chr ... of-christ/

According to that survey, 17% of US Christians don't believe in the second coming of Jesus.

Thank-you, benchwarmer. That's solid evidence that meshes with what I have experienced.

Christianity is the largest religious group world-wide at about 2.4 billion members. It stands to reason that it is therefore the easiest religion to join. Given that, Christianity includes a wide variety of people with widely varying views. I've met atheists who identify as Christians. They think Jesus was a good man or at least that the stories told about him represent a good man and a good model for humans to follow. They speak of the Jesus of faith as opposed to the Jesus of history. They recognize that the Jesus many believe in probably isn't an accurate representation of the historical Jesus. They also reject the idea of an afterlife and the "second coming" of Jesus.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

That is correct. I dont think there are any Christian groups that do not believe in "the second coming" or some interpretation of "the end of the world".

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I would be interested if you could provide evidence of your claim, can you?

This is some interesting data on the subject:

https://www.pewforum.org/2009/04/09/chr ... of-christ/

According to that survey, 17% of US Christians don't believe in the second coming of Jesus.

Thank-you, benchwarmer. That's solid evidence that meshes with what I have experienced.

That is interesting but I did ask about {quote} "Christian groups" as in religions or groups with a published dogma (as individuals it is possible there are nominal "Christians" that don't even believe in Christ, somewhere ...) so do you have anything to back up the specific claim you made about "Christian groups"?




JW

[Tcg]

That is correct. I dont think there are any Christian groups that do not believe in "the second coming" or some interpretation of "the end of the world".

7

I would be interested if you could provide evidence of your claim, can you?

This is some interesting data on the subject:

https://www.pewforum.org/2009/04/09/chr ... of-christ/

According to that survey, 17% of US Christians don't believe in the second coming of Jesus.

Thank-you, benchwarmer. That's solid evidence that meshes with what I have experienced.

That is interesting but I did ask about {quote} "Christian groups" as in religions or groups with a published dogma (as individuals it is possible there are nominal "Christians" that don't even believe in Christ, somewhere ...) so do you have anything to back up the specific claim you made about "Christian groups"?


JW

I already gave it. The people I documented were and are part of a "Christian Group." Oh, and there are no nominal Christians. All Christians are fully bonified Christians. 100% genuine!


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

That is correct. I dont think there are any Christian groups that do not believe in "the second coming" or some interpretation of "the end of the world".

7

I would be interested if you could provide evidence of your claim, can you?

This is some interesting data on the subject:

https://www.pewforum.org/2009/04/09/chr ... of-christ/

According to that survey, 17% of US Christians don't believe in the second coming of Jesus.

Thank-you, benchwarmer. That's solid evidence that meshes with what I have experienced.

That is interesting but I did ask about {quote} "Christian groups" as in religions or groups with a published dogma (as individuals it is possible there are nominal "Christians" that don't even believe in Christ, somewhere ...) so do you have anything to back up the specific claim you made about "Christian groups"?


JW

I already gave it. The people I documented were and are part of a "Christian Group." ...

Tcg

That is not your original claim, the word "part" was never mentioned. That said if you dont have anything more that's fine, it would have been interesting to read of such a religious group that's all.



JW

[Tcg]

That is correct. I dont think there are any Christian groups that do not believe in "the second coming" or some interpretation of "the end of the world".

7

I would be interested if you could provide evidence of your claim, can you?

This is some interesting data on the subject:

https://www.pewforum.org/2009/04/09/chr ... of-christ/

According to that survey, 17% of US Christians don't believe in the second coming of Jesus.

Thank-you, benchwarmer. That's solid evidence that meshes with what I have experienced.

That is interesting but I did ask about {quote} "Christian groups" as in religions or groups with a published dogma (as individuals it is possible there are nominal "Christians" that don't even believe in Christ, somewhere ...) so do you have anything to back up the specific claim you made about "Christian groups"?


JW

I already gave it. The people I documented were and are part of a "Christian Group." ...

Tcg

That is not your original claim, the word "part" was never mentioned. That said if you dont have anything more that's fine, it would have been interesting to read of such a religious group that's all.

JW

The religious group is called Christianity. I'm sure you can find plenty to read about it.


Tcg

[We_Are_VENOM]

Thank-you, benchwarmer. That's solid evidence that meshes with what I have experienced.

And on the contrary, it doesn't mesh with what I experience...so I guess that would make the evidence faulty.

Christianity is the largest religious group world-wide at about 2.4 billion members.

It stands to reason that it is therefore the easiest religion to join.

Easiest?

Given that, Christianity includes a wide variety of people with widely varying views. I've met atheists who identify as Christians.

A Biblical oxymoron.

They think Jesus was a good man or at least that the stories told about him represent a good man and a good model for humans to follow.

Yeah, but the parts that "represents" Jesus as Lord and Savior...cant have that, can we?

They speak of the Jesus of faith as opposed to the Jesus of history. They recognize that the Jesus many believe in probably isn't an accurate representation of the historical Jesus.

And actual believers of Jesus recognize that they are wrong.

They also reject the idea of an afterlife and the "second coming" of Jesus.

Of course they do. Atheists tend to reject supernatural claims, dont they?

[Tcg]

Thank-you, benchwarmer. That's solid evidence that meshes with what I have experienced.

And on the contrary, it doesn't mesh with what I experience...so I guess that would make the evidence faulty.

Nope. It simply shows that your experience is limited.

Christianity is the largest religious group world-wide at about 2.4 billion members.

It stands to reason that it is therefore the easiest religion to join.

Easiest?

Yep. Easiest.

Given that, Christianity includes a wide variety of people with widely varying views. I've met atheists who identify as Christians.

A Biblical oxymoron.

Who cares about the Bible. I'm discussing reality,

They think Jesus was a good man or at least that the stories told about him represent a good man and a good model for humans to follow.

Yeah, but the parts that "represents" Jesus as Lord and Savior...cant have that, can we?

Whomever "we" is can have whatever they like.

They speak of the Jesus of faith as opposed to the Jesus of history. They recognize that the Jesus many believe in probably isn't an accurate representation of the historical Jesus.

And actual believers of Jesus recognize that they are wrong.

Nope. All Christians are "actual believers."

They also reject the idea of an afterlife and the "second coming" of Jesus.

Of course they do. Atheists tend to reject supernatural claims, dont they?

Atheists tend to lack belief in god/gods. Everything else is up for grabs.


Tcg

[We_Are_VENOM]

Nope. It simply shows that your experience is limited.

Maybe I should get out more often then.

Christianity is the largest religious group world-wide at about 2.4 billion members.

Yep. Easiest.

Ok. So the pathway to eternal life is easy. I'll take it.

Who cares about the Bible. I'm discussing reality

I do

Whomever "we" is can have whatever they like.

Yeah, we will take what we like.

You can keep the rest.

Nope. All Christians are "actual believers."

Nope. John 3:16.

Everything else is pocket lint and a button.

Atheists tend to lack belief in god/gods.

Christians tend to believe that salvation is through one man alone.

Everything else is up for grabs.
Tcg

[Tcg]

Nope. It simply shows that your experience is limited.

Maybe I should get out more often then.

You can do whatever you like. It won't change reality.

Christianity is the largest religious group world-wide at about 2.4 billion members.

Yep. Easiest.

Ok. So the pathway to eternal life is easy. I'll take it.

The pathway to imagined eternal life is easy. One doesn't even need to be a Christian to imagine it.

Who cares about the Bible. I'm discussing reality

I do

Whomever "we" is can have whatever they like.

Yeah, we will take what we like.

You can keep the rest.

What "rest?"

Nope. All Christians are "actual believers."

Nope. John 3:16.

Everything else is pocket lint and a button.

Again, I'm discussing reality.

Atheists tend to lack belief in god/gods.

Christians tend to believe that salvation is through one man alone.

Everything else is up for grabs.
Tcg

Yep. It is okay.



Tcg