Tcg deserves thanks for the thread title, as it's from one of their recent posts. It makes me wonder, if this is true and accurate (which I have little reason to doubt that it's not true and accurate for some), does doing this equate to nothing more than pickin'-n'choosin' (that's happens so much within christianity) or if there is something to it that, if explained, makes sense.
If you are one of these followers that agree with the thread title statement, can you explain why?
For discussion:
Is it possible to be a christian and only believe certain words (aka quotes), certain passages or certain stories from the bible, or do you have to believe it all?
And why?
Not all those who follow what they believe to be the teachings of Jesus accept the reported words of Jesus in the Bible.
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Post #1Have a great, potentially godless, day!
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Post #21Blood tests? What does that have to do with your (before it was retracted) claim of "direct quotes" in the Bible?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:54 amSince I was the one writing I alone can clarify what was originally meant. The sentence was introduced with a conditional which granted, was not repeated in the second clause but its inference was assumed.
Since there was some ambiguity as to whether the entire phrase was intended to be conditional, I clarified with a second post that it was.If you agree to have a blood test [clause#1] and [if ]the baby looks like me.... I will marry you
If you agree to have a blood test [clause#1] and the baby looks like me.... I will marry you
And yet, no ..."thank you"!
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Post #22Yes, I was trying to illustrate the dependent clause but decided it was more trouble than it was worth. Was there anything else hou would like to ask me?
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:54 am
Since I was the one writing I alone can clarify what was originally meant. The sentence was introduced with a conditional which granted, was not repeated in the second clause but its inference was assumed.
Since there was some ambiguity as to whether the entire phrase was intended to be conditional, I clarified with a second post that it was.
And yet, no ..."thank you"!
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Re: Not all those who follow what they believe to be the teachings of Jesus accept the reported words of Jesus in the Bi
Post #23Nope. Your retraction of your claim of "direct quotes" tells me all I need to know.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:30 am
Yes, I was trying to illustrate the dependent clause but decided it was more trouble than it was worth. Was there anything else hou would like to ask me?
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Post #24Okay Well it's been grand. Have a most most excellent day,Tcg wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:38 amNope. ...JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:30 am
Yes, I was trying to illustrate the dependent clause but decided it was more trouble than it was worth. Was there anything else hou would like to ask me?
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Re: Not all those who follow what they believe to be the teachings of Jesus accept the reported words of Jesus in the Bi
Post #25Thanks. I always do. Life is great without fantasy!JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:43 amOkay Well it's been grand. Have a most most excellent day,Tcg wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:38 amNope. ...JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:30 am
Yes, I was trying to illustrate the dependent clause but decided it was more trouble than it was worth. Was there anything else hou would like to ask me?
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(Not a claim of fact so it can't be questioned apparently.)
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Re: Not all those who follow what they believe to be the teachings of Jesus accept the reported words of Jesus in the Bi
Post #26Nice. I observed with some Jaundice semantic tap -dancing with the ent to scutle away claiming a draw if not a win. I'm glad you could counter that.
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Re: Not all those who follow what they believe to be the teachings of Jesus accept the reported words of Jesus in the Bi
Post #27"But when you pray, enter into your room and shut your door...." (Matthew 6:6)nobspeople wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:39 am Tcg deserves thanks for the thread title, as it's from one of their recent posts. It makes me wonder, if this is true and accurate (which I have little reason to doubt that it's not true and accurate for some), does doing this equate to nothing more than pickin'-n'choosin' (that's happens so much within christianity) or if there is something to it that, if explained, makes sense.
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Is it possible to be a christian and only believe certain words (aka quotes), certain passages or certain stories from the bible, or do you have to believe it all?
And why?
There are Christians who aren't big on that one. You can run into them at high school football games and graduations. Also at town hall meetings.
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Post #28It is, because people are allowed to call themselves what they will, and if a large swath of people start calling themselves X because they do Y, that becomes a part of language and those who do Y are now properly called X.nobspeople wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:39 am Is it possible to be a christian and only believe certain words (aka quotes), certain passages or certain stories from the bible, or do you have to believe it all?
And why?
I don't have to like the salad bar Christians, however, and I can think it's silly. However, that doesn't stop them from being right because anything could turn out to be right. The parts they reject could all turn out to be tests to see if they would reject evil, which they did, so they pass.
Once you make morality a gamble-hole of who you should trust, the right thing might be anything.