For debate:otseng wrote: ...
humans are a special creation
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Please offer some means to confirm the claim is true and factual.
Folks're reminded that in this section of the site the Bible ain't considered authoritative.
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For debate:otseng wrote: ...
humans are a special creation
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If it makes people feel 'unique' and 'better than everything else', that's all that matters for some. Christians like to think they're the pinnacle of god's creation (which is ludicrous IMO). So no proof needed for those folk.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:12 pm From Post 942 here:
For debate:otseng wrote: ...
humans are a special creation
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Please offer some means to confirm the claim is true and factual.
Folks're reminded that in this section of the site the Bible ain't considered authoritative.
To needy humans perhaps, but the rest of animal life on the planet doesn't give a rat's pa-toot.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:12 pm From Post 942 here:
otseng wrote: ...
humans are a special creation
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Sorry, but I'm stuck trying to think why. In time our species will go extinct while other life, those better fit to survive without fire and indoor housing, will continue on.For debate:
Please offer some means to confirm the claim is true and factual.
If by MEANS ....JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:12 pm
For debate:
Please offer some means to confirm the claim is true and factual.
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:28 pmIf by MEANS ....JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:12 pm
For debate:
Please offer some means to confirm the claim is true and factual.
.... if by means you are requesting suggested methodology, I would suggest establishing a set of criteria such as level of intelligence, language, humour, evidence of creativity ... and measuring other lifeforms against them.
The methodology (MEANS) is to have a relevant set of criteria, the criteria offered was just a suggestion which is why you see the words "such as " as in, "for example" , since they represent areas by which humans may well prove to occupy a unique position in the known universe. Other criteria may well be just as effective.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:43 pm
Beyond that, what makes the criteria you propose the deciding factor?
Even if it could be shown that humans occupy a unique position in the known universe, that wouldn't establish that they are a "special creation." It'd simply show that humans are lucky when it comes to evolutionary progress. Beyond that, given that humans seem to be the only animals "advanced" enough to destroy their own environment, along with the environment of countless other species, we don't seem very advanced at all. We appear to be absolutely short sighted and absurdly wasteful. Dolphins for example appear to be immensely wiser than us.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:49 pm
The methodology (MEANS) is to have a relevant set of criteria, the criteria offered was just a suggestion which is why you see the words "such as " as in, "for example" , since they represent areas by which humans may well prove to occupy a unique position in the known universe. Other criteria may well be just as effective.
JW