Did Christianity invent children?

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Did Christianity invent children?

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https://theweek.com/articles/551027/how ... d-children

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Did Christianity invent children?
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Wootah wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:01 pm https://theweek.com/articles/551027/how ... d-children

Please read the article before answering or debating the question.

Did Christianity invent children?
Given that modern humans have been around for 200,000 years or perhaps longer and Christianity has been around for the short span of 2,000 years or so, the obvious answer is NO.


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No, mammals did. The degree of this phenomenon may have been greatly enhanced by any number of events throughout humanity's development, but it was the invention of mammals, and birds, and probably the ancestral warm-blooded reptile that spawned both.

Actually even cichlids have it.

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Hardly. Care of children is a general mammalian characteristic, and the training of the children to survive and function in the world is the mother's if not the parents' bob. Taken over in a complex social group to teach the values, the parents being more the tribal guardians of the tribe's cultural values.

Christianity is but one of those social tribes that is permitted - if it works with the state - to teach its' own particular values.

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Wootah wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:01 pm https://theweek.com/articles/551027/how ... d-children

Please read the article before answering or debating the question.

Did Christianity invent children?
I think the question should have been, did Christianity give value or appreciation for children. I think the article is about that. And I think it has a good point. It really seems to be so that without Christianity, children are barely seen even as humans. They can be aborted easily and they can be groomed and used as sex slaves, when they have no value.

But, unfortunately inside of Christianity there is also people who don't appreciate and love children. But at least the teachings of Christianity appreciate and show love to children.

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1213 wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:28 am
Wootah wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:01 pm https://theweek.com/articles/551027/how ... d-children

Please read the article before answering or debating the question.

Did Christianity invent children?
I think the question should have been, did Christianity give value or appreciation for children. I think the article is about that. And I think it has a good point. It really seems to be so that without Christianity, children are barely seen even as humans. They can be aborted easily and they can be groomed and used as sex slaves, when they have no value.
They can also be dashed against the rocks if they are children of those who opposed Israel:
Psalm 137:7Remember, O Lord, against the Edomites
the day of Jerusalem,
how they said, “Lay it bare, lay it bare,
down to its foundations!”
8 O daughter of Babylon, doomed to be destroyed,
blessed shall he be who repays you
with what you have done to us!
9 Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones
and dashes them against the rock!
As we see time and time again, the Bible is a book of favoritism. Those who aren't of "God's chosen" get treated astonishingly cruelly and that includes children.


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The title is deliberately hyperbolic, a literary device to capture readers attention and provoke thought on the issues raises. It is not an article on biology but on how Christianity has shaped the modern view of children and childhood.
FIRSTLY PLEASE NOTE I make no claims here, I am simply expressing what I believe based on the bible. Please take all sentences to be preceeded by the premise "I believe ..."

Although I think the author makes some valid points, in my view he under plays the basic truth that normal people have always had a natutal love of their offspring, albeit supperimposed with religious and social norms but not extinguished. That said, there is no doubt In my mind that Christianity has had a huge impact on the world, especially the West. The record of Jesus has in my opinon given dignity to men women and yes children, raising them up out if paganism, away from a caste system, to a higher level in which all people young or old, have equal value in the eyes of God.


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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:16 am ...
That said, there is no doubt In my mind that Christianity has had a huge impact on the world, especially the West. The record of Jesus has in my opinon given dignity to men women and yes children, raising them up out if paganism, away from a caste system, to a higher level in which all people young or old, have equal value in the eyes of God.
You must not live in the Bible Belt.

The caste system is real.

Wimmins're for breedin' 'n' baby birthin', incapable of making sound medical decision for themselves.

There should be no teaching of gender, just ask Mr. Desantis.

And the ever present, "Y'all's broke cause y'all ain't sending me God's cut of y'all's paycheck".

And did I mention slavery?

Christians just love to claim ol' Jesus there'll fix it all, as they run around breaking stuff for him to fix.
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1213 wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:28 am
Wootah wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:01 pm https://theweek.com/articles/551027/how ... d-children

Please read the article before answering or debating the question.

Did Christianity invent children?
I think the question should have been, did Christianity give value or appreciation for children. I think the article is about that. And I think it has a good point. It really seems to be so that without Christianity, children are barely seen even as humans. They can be aborted easily and they can be groomed and used as sex slaves, when they have no value.

But, unfortunately inside of Christianity there is also people who don't appreciate and love children. But at least the teachings of Christianity appreciate and show love to children.
Children of slaves were slaves themselves. Christianity's no better, or worse really, than the values of those who use it for their own aims.

Millionaire preachers flitting about in private jets, begging for money to feed the starving children, is among the most heinous cons I've ever known.
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