Q: Can the mind-set of the biblically minded be generalized that they are better understood in some coherent context?
For example.
Are they generally heterosexual?
Do they consider YHWH to be Masculine in their imagery of HIM?
Do they idolize the Bible?
What other general characteristics can be added to this list, re the OPQ?
*Thanks to nobspeople for the inspiration for the thread question
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Post #21[Replying to Tcg in post #18]
There is no generalized mindset of those who follow the Bible.
Three have been identified so far.
1: They are generally heterosexual.
2: They consider YHWH to be Masculine in their imagery of HIM.
3: They idolize the Bible
Identified. No claim has been made. You are free to argue why you do not think these generalizations are accurate identifiers.Zero have been identified. Three have been claimed absent verifiable evidence of course.
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Post #22[Replying to William in post #17]
I'm indifferent to that possibility.Do you think it might be added to the list of the General Christian Mind-set..."Jesus will return"
No. One can see god in all things, no things, or certain things. People can see what they want, when and where they want.One either see GOD in all things, or one does not.
Thanks for clarification, though I know some that would disagree with that. But I'm not one of them, so that was said generally.It is simply because it remains unseen and thus, GOD cannot be seen in it
Fair enoughIf it does happen then when it happens, GOD can be seen in that as well...and what unfolds from such an event...even if Jesus does return, it may not unfold as we have been lead to expect...but it hasn't happened so I see no reason to place faith in it happening...there is the possibility it was a made up story...but we shall see when - if ever - that bridge is reached and the manifestation happens.
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Post #23[Replying to nobspeople in post #22]
Do you think it might be added to the list of the General Christian Mind-set..."Jesus will return"
So what was your interest in that subject?I'm indifferent to that possibility.
One either see GOD in all things, or one does not.
Which is what I meant by writing what I did. Seeing GOD in 'certain things' is not see GOD in all things.No. One can see god in all things, no things, or certain things. People can see what they want, when and where they want.
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Post #24[Replying to William in post #23]
A passing one; more about the believers than the beliefSo what was your interest in that subject?
Six of one, half a dozen of the other; glass is half full, glass if half empty. Which falls under the umbrella of seeing god in all things, no things, or certain thingsSeeing GOD in 'certain things' is not see GOD in all things.
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Post #25My point was that there seems no reason as to why you wished to make such distinction.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:36 pm [Replying to William in post #23]
A passing one; more about the believers than the beliefSo what was your interest in that subject?
Six of one, half a dozen of the other; glass is half full, glass if half empty. Which falls under the umbrella of seeing god in all things, no things, or certain thingsSeeing GOD in 'certain things' is not see GOD in all things.
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Post #26Because I'm curious as to how individuals see things. The belief is, IMO, total bunk and not worth the paper it's printed on. But the people... that's the truly interesting part for me.William wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:38 pmMy point was that there seems no reason as to why you wished to make such distinction.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:36 pm [Replying to William in post #23]
A passing one; more about the believers than the beliefSo what was your interest in that subject?
Six of one, half a dozen of the other; glass is half full, glass if half empty. Which falls under the umbrella of seeing god in all things, no things, or certain thingsSeeing GOD in 'certain things' is not see GOD in all things.
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Post #27[Replying to nobspeople in post #26]
When I want to know how YHWH does things, I go to science because science explains it in far more detail than religion does.
What are your 'interests' re that. Perhaps the study of how the "deranged" hear the noise and attribute it to a mindful creator?
What does your bias tell you?
[Bias="IMO"*]
That is a great attribute.Because I'm curious as to how individuals see things.
As such, seeing GOD in all things is not really a 'belief' so much as an acknowledgement. That is how I 'see' it, in case your curiosity as to how individuals see things, reaches that far...The belief is,...
When I want to know how YHWH does things, I go to science because science explains it in far more detail than religion does.
Therein is the bias which may prevent the curiosity from reaching that far....IMO*, total bunk and not worth the paper it's printed on.
As this person [one of the 'people'] said "I see GOD in all things".But the people... that's the truly interesting part for me.
What are your 'interests' re that. Perhaps the study of how the "deranged" hear the noise and attribute it to a mindful creator?
What does your bias tell you?
[Bias="IMO"*]
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Re: The Biblically Minded
Post #28[Replying to William in post #27]
1) People are weird things. They can be kind or hateful, vile and sweet. You can have 50 people look at a problem and come to the same conclusion, then one person some by with a totally different solution, and fixes the problem. That, to me, is interesting.
How people behave one way yet live a life that tells a different story.
How people overcome oppression, or oppress others.
Specifically, how one's POV is the same, yet somehow slightly different, than mine or a groups' thinking. Fascinating.
2) Can you elaborate on this question? What are you looking for me to tell you? And about what, exactly?
You have to believe you see it before you acknowledge it...seeing GOD in all things is not really a 'belief' so much as an acknowledgement.
Sure...science because science explains it in far more detail than religion does.
I acknowledge the biasness therein. However, I spent many a decade within christianity, so the biasness goes 'both ways'. That is, modern christianity.Therein is the bias which may prevent the curiosity from reaching that far.
Good questions:As this person [one of the 'people'] said "I see GOD in all things".
1) What are your 'interests' re that. Perhaps the study of how the "deranged" hear the noise and attribute it to a mindful creator?
2) What does your bias tell you?
1) People are weird things. They can be kind or hateful, vile and sweet. You can have 50 people look at a problem and come to the same conclusion, then one person some by with a totally different solution, and fixes the problem. That, to me, is interesting.
How people behave one way yet live a life that tells a different story.
How people overcome oppression, or oppress others.
Specifically, how one's POV is the same, yet somehow slightly different, than mine or a groups' thinking. Fascinating.
2) Can you elaborate on this question? What are you looking for me to tell you? And about what, exactly?
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Post #29[Replying to nobspeople in post #28]
That would amount to the belief that such a thing might be possible, I can grant you that much.
The acknowledgement comes after enough confirmation that not only is it possible, but it is actually the case.
...seeing GOD in all things is not really a 'belief' so much as an acknowledgement.
Possibly. Or it may be a case that one approaches the idea without particular bias either way, and just see if it has anything to show for itself re the idea.You have to believe you see it before you acknowledge it
That would amount to the belief that such a thing might be possible, I can grant you that much.
The acknowledgement comes after enough confirmation that not only is it possible, but it is actually the case.
Therein is the bias which may prevent the curiosity from reaching that far.
That is why I prefer to view the works of YHWH through the instrument of science rather than religion.I acknowledge the biasness therein. However, I spent many a decade within christianity, so the biasness goes 'both ways'. That is, modern christianity.
2) What does your bias tell you?
About that I see YHWH in everything. What does your bias tell you now about me as a personality re the statement?Can you elaborate on this question? What are you looking for me to tell you? And about what, exactly?
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Re: The Biblically Minded
Post #30[Replying to William in post #29]
When I was younger and 'experienced the feeling of god' in my life, I later learned I could create the exact same feeling on demand.
I think people that see god in things/all things, simply do so because they want to see them. Does that mean they're wrong, and god is not in all things or any thing? I won't go that far, as I don't know. No one does. It's all about belief.
That's a long was of saying I think you see god in all things because you want to see god in all things. It's personal bias, culture, psychological need, want/desire and many other things all rolled into one.
Maybe. But I don't believe anyone is entirely unbiased.Or it may be a case that one approaches the idea without particular bias either way, and just see if it has anything to show for itself re the idea.
Maybe. I'd have to sit and ruminate on that for a while.The acknowledgement comes after enough confirmation that not only is it possible, but it is actually the case.
If that works for you, great!That is why I prefer to view the works of YHWH through the instrument of science rather than religion.
Back in the day, I was into 'ghost hunting shows'. I loved to see them get 'spooked' or get 'the chills' and the like. But I discovered, if I thought about it enough, I could recreate the same exact feeling on demand. Anyone can. Therefore, I created what I wanted at that time.About that I see YHWH in everything. What does your bias tell you now about ne as a personality re the statement?
When I was younger and 'experienced the feeling of god' in my life, I later learned I could create the exact same feeling on demand.
I think people that see god in things/all things, simply do so because they want to see them. Does that mean they're wrong, and god is not in all things or any thing? I won't go that far, as I don't know. No one does. It's all about belief.
That's a long was of saying I think you see god in all things because you want to see god in all things. It's personal bias, culture, psychological need, want/desire and many other things all rolled into one.
Have a great, potentially godless, day!