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The Biblically Minded

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Q: Can the mind-set of the biblically minded be generalized that they are better understood in some coherent context?

For example.

Are they generally heterosexual?
Do they consider YHWH to be Masculine in their imagery of HIM?
Do they idolize the Bible?

What other general characteristics can be added to this list, re the OPQ?

*Thanks to nobspeople for the inspiration for the thread question

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Re: The Biblically Minded

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[Replying to nobspeople in post #30]
Or it may be a case that one approaches the idea without particular bias either way, and just see if it has anything to show for itself re the idea.
Maybe. But I don't believe anyone is entirely unbiased.
Are you willing to set that belief aside or is it fixed and unmovable?
About that I see YHWH in everything. What does your bias tell you now about ne as a personality re the statement?
I think you see god in all things because you want to see god in all things. It's personal bias, culture, psychological need, want/desire and many other things all rolled into one.
Do you have any support for your thinking this way about me?

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Re: The Biblically Minded

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[Replying to William in post #31]
Are you willing to set that belief aside or is it fixed and unmovable?
One can try to minimize it, but I believe it's part of human nature and, aside from physical death, impossible to eliminate from the human condition.
Do you have any support for your thinking this way about me?
Anyone who thinks there's a god has this ability. That, in of itself is enough, for me.
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Re: The Biblically Minded

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William wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:47 pm
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YHWH does not make mistakes, therefore one is required to look elsewhere for truer answers which are not fudged, clouded or muddied by bias.
As I told JehovahsWitness in another thread:

Keeping in mind that when one repents, regrets, or is sorry for what he does, that action (doing) would have been wrong (not right) to do; it would be a mistake:

mis·take
/məˈstāk/
noun: mistake; plural noun: mistakes
an action or judgment that is misguided or wrong.


Which applies to


Genesis 6:6
The Lord was sorry he had made human beings on the earth. His heart was filled with pain.

And

1 Samuel 15:35
Samuel never saw Saul again before he died, but he grieved over Saul. However, the Lord regretted making Saul king over Israel.


So here we have god himself admitting to having made mistakes. Obviously YHWH is not infallible.


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Re: The Biblically Minded

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And of course God repented that he'skilled all those people in the Flood and swore never to do it again. And this is a critter who never repented that he's set up a scenario that made it likely that man would sin, nor does He even repent in the slightest for all the evil that he does or orders, from killing the Amalekites to hardening Pharaoh's heart to make sure he wouldn't release the Hebrews, as there was some killin' to be done, first.

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Re: The Biblically Minded

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bjs1 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:18 am
William wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:54 pm Do you know of any denominations which;
Are not generally heterosexual?
The United Church of Christ. Also, several smaller ones.
William wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:54 pm Do not consider YHWH to be Masculine in their imagery of HIM?
All of which I am aware use masculine imagery. None of which I am aware consider God to be masculine (as opposed to feminine).
William wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:54 pm Do not idolize the Bible?
I do not know of any denominations that idolize the Bible.

Unless you mean this as an ad hominem. Then it is whichever ones you want, because it based on your personal attack and not on anything they claim to believe.
I am sure you consider the Holy Spirit as part of god. Did you know in the original Hebrew, the term 'holy spirit' is feminine? It usually is used when God is doing the act of creation. Thus, the phrase 'God made man in his own image, male and female he made them' indicates that according to the Jewish scriptures, God has both male and female attributes, thus, mankind is created both male and female.

The reason that you are only aware of God to be masculine is that the Greek, and then later the Latin had 'holy spirit' as masculine, yet in the original language , it was feminine.
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Re: The Biblically Minded

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[Replying to Miles in post #33]

Search: "What percentage of the population are hermaphrodites?"
What are the chances of being born a hermaphrodite?
Here's what we do know: If you ask experts at medical centers how often a child is born so noticeably atypical in terms of genitalia that a specialist in sex differentiation is called in, the number comes out to about 1 in 1500 to 1 in 2000 births.

Not that "rare" at at. It is however, often regarded as a "disorder" - probably - mostly by heterosexual evaluators.
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YHWH does not make mistakes, therefore one is required to look elsewhere for truer answers which are not fudged, clouded or muddied by bias.
Miles wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:08 pm
William wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:47 pm
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YHWH does not make mistakes, therefore one is required to look elsewhere for truer answers which are not fudged, clouded or muddied by bias.
As I told JehovahsWitness in another thread:

Keeping in mind that when one repents, regrets, or is sorry for what he does, that action (doing) would have been wrong (not right) to do; it would be a mistake:

mis·take
/məˈstāk/
noun: mistake; plural noun: mistakes
an action or judgment that is misguided or wrong.


Which applies to


Genesis 6:6
The Lord was sorry he had made human beings on the earth. His heart was filled with pain.

And

1 Samuel 15:35
Samuel never saw Saul again before he died, but he grieved over Saul. However, the Lord regretted making Saul king over Israel.


So here we have god himself admitting to having made mistakes. Obviously YHWH is not infallible.


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What we have in the bible is a religious version of YHWH.
Are you arguing that YHWH has mistakenly made hermaphrodites?

When I write that YHWH makes no mistakes, I am referring to the overall Cosmic Mind.

As I explained in another thread: viewtopic.php?p=1075100#p1075100

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Re: The Biblically Minded

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[Replying to Goat in post #35]
The reason that you are only aware of God to be masculine is that the Greek, and then later the Latin had 'holy spirit' as masculine, yet in the original language , it was feminine.
I am not sure if this was meant to be in reply to the OPQ's and the 'you' mentioned, is addressed to me?

I myself have no problem with the idea of 'seeing' YHWH in any shape or form.

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Re: The Biblically Minded

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William wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:29 pm [Replying to Miles in post #33]

Miles wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:08 pm
William wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:47 pm
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YHWH does not make mistakes, therefore one is required to look elsewhere for truer answers which are not fudged, clouded or muddied by bias.
As I told JehovahsWitness in another thread:

Keeping in mind that when one repents, regrets, or is sorry for what he does, that action (doing) would have been wrong (not right) to do; it would be a mistake:

mis·take
/məˈstāk/
noun: mistake; plural noun: mistakes
an action or judgment that is misguided or wrong.


Which applies to


Genesis 6:6
The Lord was sorry he had made human beings on the earth. His heart was filled with pain.

And

1 Samuel 15:35
Samuel never saw Saul again before he died, but he grieved over Saul. However, the Lord regretted making Saul king over Israel.


So here we have god himself admitting to having made mistakes. Obviously YHWH is not infallible.


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What we have in the bible is a religious version of YHWH.
Are you arguing that YHWH has mistakenly made hermaphrodites?
Has god said he made them by mistake? If not, then No. If so, then Yes.

When I write that YHWH makes no mistakes, I am referring to the overall Cosmic Mind.
So isn't this "Cosmic Mind" you refer to, god? If so, what's your point? If not, then I fail to see why you mention it.

As I explained in another thread: viewtopic.php?p=1075100#p1075100
Nice I guess, but I fail to see the relevance.

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Re: The Biblically Minded

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[Replying to Miles in post #38]
Nice I guess, but I fail to see the relevance.
YHWH is within all creation, and as such, depending upon the nature of the form YHWH occupies, depends upon the information the form can receive.

What might appear to have been a mistake once upon a time, may be understood as 'not a mistake' as more information is gathered.

YHWH - in the form of the Planet - is a "God in the making". "I am mighty hear me ROAR!" - the Grand-Parent - Galaxy has more information on that to impart upon the ignorant...

viewtopic.php?p=1075706#p1075706

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Re: The Biblically Minded

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William wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:17 pm [Replying to Miles in post #38]
Nice I guess, but I fail to see the relevance.
YHWH is within all creation, and as such, depending upon the nature of the form YHWH occupies, depends upon the information the form can receive.
So what different kinds of form can YHWH occupy?
What might appear to have been a mistake once upon a time, may be understood as 'not a mistake' as more information is gathered.
In short then, god may have been mistaken about the mistake he said he made? He made a mistake to think what he did was a mistake?

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