The fairy tale of the talking bush

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The fairy tale of the talking bush

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In another thread, the topic of evolution came up and a poster (Eloi) accused it of being a 'fairy tale'. Aside from the fact that this poster doesn't understand religion, it made me wonder what fairy tales we accept and what ones we don't.

But let's not allow this thread to turn into a pro- anti-evolution thread; let's talk about fairy tales and their believability.

It seems to me, there's more scientific evidence for evolution than there is for any god existing. There is some truth in that in every myth, legend, tale, there's a hint of truth. This doesn't mean the entire myth, legend, tale is true.

Let's, ironically, talk about the talking and burning bush that wasn't consumed, while keeping it simple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_b ... %20bush%20(or%20the,the%20flames%2C%20hence%20the%20name.

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How is this story not a fairy tale yet evolution is?
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Re: The fairy tale of the talking bush

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nobspeople wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:32 pm ...
Let's, ironically, talk about the talking and burning bush that wasn't consumed, while keeping it simple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_b ... %20bush%20(or%20the,the%20flames%2C%20hence%20the%20name.

For discussion:
How is this story not a fairy tale yet evolution is?
Perhaps details don't matter, but according to the story, it was not the bush that was talking.

The angel of Yahweh appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush. He looked, and behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
Ex. 3:2

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Re: The fairy tale of the talking bush

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1213 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 11:48 am
nobspeople wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:32 pm ...
Let's, ironically, talk about the talking and burning bush that wasn't consumed, while keeping it simple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_b ... %20bush%20(or%20the,the%20flames%2C%20hence%20the%20name.

For discussion:
How is this story not a fairy tale yet evolution is?
Perhaps details don't matter, but according to the story, it was not the bush that was talking.

The angel of Yahweh appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush. He looked, and behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
Ex. 3:2
1. Do you believe the account, from Exodus 3:2, actually happened: (yes or no)?
2. Why or why not?
3. Who wrote Exodus 3:2?
4. How exactly did they get their information?
5. Was this person trustworthy?
6. If you believe this story did not happen, then how do you determine which stories are false, and which ones are true?
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Re: The fairy tale of the talking bush

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nobspeople wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:32 pm For discussion:
How is this story not a fairy tale yet evolution is?
Because the narrative does not present the bush(which is an inanimate object) as actually talking, so it doesn't defy known science.



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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 3:24 pm Image
Hilarious.

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POI wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 10:17 am ...
1. Do you believe the account, from Exodus 3:2, actually happened: (yes or no)?
2. Why or why not?
3. Who wrote Exodus 3:2?
4. How exactly did they get their information?
5. Was this person trustworthy?
6. If you believe this story did not happen, then how do you determine which stories are false, and which ones are true?
1. I believe it.
2. Because it is more difficult to believe we would have the story, if it did not happen. Also, I think Bible has good wisdom and truth that makes me trust to it in issues that we can't check.
3. I don't know.
4. I believe the information is from them who witnessed the events.
5. I trust to them.

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Re: The fairy tale of the talking bush

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1213 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:05 am
POI wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 10:17 am ...
1. Do you believe the account, from Exodus 3:2, actually happened: (yes or no)?
2. Why or why not?
3. Who wrote Exodus 3:2?
4. How exactly did they get their information?
5. Was this person trustworthy?
6. If you believe this story did not happen, then how do you determine which stories are false, and which ones are true?
1. I believe it.
2. Because it is more difficult to believe we would have the story, if it did not happen. Also, I think Bible has good wisdom and truth that makes me trust to it in issues that we can't check.
3. I don't know.
4. I believe the information is from them who witnessed the events.
5. I trust to them.
2. Why is this story more probable to be true, verses false? Is it because you feel the Bible provides wisdom? If so, is there anything written in the Bible which requires wisdom above the ability of men alone?
3. If you do not know who wrote Exodus, then how do you know the author is trustworthy in this story line?
4. Again, if you do not know who the author was, then how do you know they witnessed anything?
5. Again, if you do not know who wrote of this story, then how do you know you can trust the story line?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 3:24 pm
Because the narrative does not present the bush(which is an inanimate object) as actually talking, so it doesn't defy known science.

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I'm pretty sure a bush that burns and is never consumed defies known science. Of course, fairy tales are known to do so.


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nobspeople wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:32 pm
For discussion:
How is this story not a fairy tale yet evolution is?
Dogs produce dogs.
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We_Are_VENOM wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 1:09 am
nobspeople wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:32 pm
For discussion:
How is this story not a fairy tale yet evolution is?
Dogs produce dogs.
:? The depth of creationist arguments simply boggles the mind.
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