As a doubter to the 'authority' of the Bible, allow me to offer my 2 cents...
1213 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:44 am
Diogenes wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:15 pm
Jesus (and Paul) thought the world was going to end soon. This is why Jesus told people to give away their possessions, ...
I don't think that is the reason for giving away possessions. But, why do you think that is the central problem?
My understanding is that owning possessions could/would get in the way of numero uno --- (Christ/Jesus/God). Hence, the more possessions you own, the higher the chance you have of coveting these items; rather than to instead focus your sole efforts/importance on 'God'. But of course, I would need to reference differing Verses of the Bible to support my position... For which one could
still ask the Christian, why seek to procure any type of possessions/wealth? Seems as though "Jesus" was not in favor of 'wealth' regardless....
But I do see where 'Diogenes' gets his conclusion. Why? As I see it, the Bible can be used to support
opposing positions
This is why you will see a Catholic church set directly next to a Baptist church, which also sets next to a Seven Day Adventists church, which may set next to a Methodist church, etc.........
The question remains.... Did Jesus, as well as some/all of these Bible authors, believe the end was coming soon? I'd say it is not far fetched to think so... Why? Look at the many today who also believe the (end times) are also near. ~2000 years and counting.... What the heck is "Jesus/God/other" waiting for?
I'd wager to say the '
central message' here is that the Bible author(s) thought the end was near, but that clearly has not happened. Hence, the Bible writers were wrong.... Christians can hide behind the ambiguity of the assertions (i.e.):
Mark 13:32 -- But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Matt. 24:44 -- Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc............................
In case anyone is wondering... The avatar quote states the following:
"I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness."