TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:23 pm
Purple Knight wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:37 pmIf these vessels of ours do not have a way to perceive good, if good is actually fundamentally unnatural to us, then we don't know what it is and we'll never know what it is, because although God may tell us and say he speaks the truth, the Devil can say he knows too, and that the other fellow is actually the bad guy and
he lies.
Yes. That's been done, too,. More than one religious voice has found themselves saying. "...you know, it would make more sense if God was the bad Guy and Satan was the good guy." I believe the Gospel of Judas is based on this idea.
I find it intriguing, the idea that Jesus is not the son of the Jewish God who is termed Saklas - fool - but a messenger from the realm of Barbalo who actually does want to save people - people who were created by an imperfect god who (shock and surprise) created them imperfectly. However it is clearly somebody's head canon, however much sense it makes.
I have a head canon about the Bible too. I think the greater overriding principle of gods and worship that the Bible fails to mention or even edits out is that you are judged by the gods in which you believe.
And I think early Jews and their God were unhappy with the fact that gentiles and Pagans were going to Valhalla and whatnot. So The God of the Chosen People sends a "messenger" who says to all non-Jews, you're not of the Chosen People, no problem, accept me and I'll take care of everything. Oh, you're a wicked sinner? Again no problem just accept me. Nothing is any problem whatsoever just accept me and you're good.
Do you see what the goal is here? One would tend to think getting the acceptance was the goal, wouldn't one?
When these gentiles die, they agree to be judged by a god that hates them and they go to Hell for sinning which is the agreement. Nobody has to forgive you just because they said they would. The point was, you gave your soul to a set of principles, you accepted them in your heart. You are now judged by the god you gave your soul to.
Regardless of whether the God of the Chosen People is real or made-up, I can see this scenario being true. In the case of the latter it's an actually quite justifiable revenge fantasy against the people who oppress them, and in the case of the former it's just what the God of the Bible would do if he were real.
So just in case, maybe be careful what you let in your heart.