Can anyone give good reason to believe Yahweh is not a demon?

[Willum]

Can anyone give good reason to believe Yahweh is not a demon?


Demand animal sacrifices.
Demand the Hebrew commit genocide for a cultural misunderstanding.
A demon would murder planets because he was having a tantrum.
When the Hebrew's generations were weakened by following it, had them undergo genocides themselves.
A demon would allow Adam and Eve to be corrupted, for reasons opaque. (Perfect beings not intending to sin, sinning.)
A demon would be defeated by a greater power (Satan) yet claim victory.
A demon would turn people to salt for looking back.
A demon would claim to love you, while sending most folks to Hell.
A demon would write a book saying he was good, omnipotent and full of all sorts of propaganda.
A demon would re-name itself "God," to capitalize on the conflation with the benevolence of deities.

...and so on.

Can anyone provide good reason to not suspect Yahweh is a demon?

[brunumb]

Yes, and in fairness China is atheist and the Chinese are 1 billion people and they are pretty heavily persecuted by their government.

It's not just Christians. It is all religious groups in China.

"The Chinese government is wary of religion for several reasons. China is officially an atheist state and Communist Party members are banned from believing in or practicing any faith; there is concern that religion can function as an alternative to Communism and thus undermine loyalty to the government. The lessons from Eastern Europe and the role of the church, particularly in Poland, in generating opposition to Communist governments are still fresh. In addition, China's leaders view with suspicion the role of religion in ethnic minority areas., which they see as furthering pro-independence, or so-called "splittist" or separatist movements, especially in Tibet and Xinjiang."
https://www.hrw.org/legacy/campaigns/ch ... ligion.htm

Ironically, Christianity is the fastest growing religion in China.

[JoeyKnothead]

The game is Poker, not Candy Land, come back when you have some cards in your hands.

Poker doesn't need cards in your hands btw....

Nor, does it seem, does the Christian feel it necessary to show their claims're truth.

Wootah claims God can see, offers excuses and diversions when his bet gets called.

Wootah claims he knows the mind of God, folds his hand when I raise the pot.

I only need to read your claims to see your bluff!

OF COURSE he knows the mind of God.
An infinite and unknowable creature.

He knows it, because amazingly, what he believes about God is 100% correct.
Conversely, God believes exactly the same things Woot does, therefore Woot knows his mind.

That is the nature of imaginary friends.

How much would you like to wager he continues to avoid the thrust of our posts, and continues to focus on Candy Land?

Willum creates a thread in a Christian debating forum saying God is a demon and ends his own thread attacking others because they are talking about an imaginary friend called God.

The internet writes itself once more.

And once more you dodge responsibility for your claims...

You claim God sees.

You claim to know God's mind.

You continue to refuse to show you speak truth, and continue to display a degree of dishonor or by not renouncing claims you obviously can't put the least bit of truth to.

Why is it so hard for some Christians to say such as, "Well, about that...?"

Ain't none of y'all ever had an old lady? I'm out here well about thating at least once a month.

[Difflugia]

I was not denying the holocaust I was denying that old furphy about Hitler being Christian and so on.

Oh, that old furphy.


[Source]

In case you don't recognize the guy in front of the NSDAP flag, that's Germany's second most famous antisemite.

Hitlers Kampf und Luthers Lehr
Des deutschen Volkes gute Wehr

Hitler's fighting and Luther's teaching
The German people's best defense

[Source]

Ostern
Die Juden haben Christus ans Kreuz geschlagen und ihn tot geglaubt.
Er ist auserstanden. Sie haben Deutschland ans Kreuz geschlagen und
tot gesagt und es ist auserstanden herrlicher denn je zuvor

Easter
The Jews have struck Christ upon the cross and believed him dead.
He has risen. They have struck Germany upon the cross and
called it dead and it has risen more glorious than ever before

[Wootah]

[Replying to Difflugia in post #63]

Wow you found nazi propaganda posters. Let's face it the world was abandoning God from the end of the enlightenment, straight through to darwin, neitsche and hitler and the ubermensch. These guys didn't read the bible and accidentally make a 'Wrong Turn at Albuquerque'.

[Wootah]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #62]

Show me where I claimed what you say in this thread and I will see what I can do for you.

[Wootah]

Yes, and in fairness China is atheist and the Chinese are 1 billion people and they are pretty heavily persecuted by their government.

It's not just Christians. It is all religious groups in China.

"The Chinese government is wary of religion for several reasons. China is officially an atheist state and Communist Party members are banned from believing in or practicing any faith; there is concern that religion can function as an alternative to Communism and thus undermine loyalty to the government. The lessons from Eastern Europe and the role of the church, particularly in Poland, in generating opposition to Communist governments are still fresh. In addition, China's leaders view with suspicion the role of religion in ethnic minority areas., which they see as furthering pro-independence, or so-called "splittist" or separatist movements, especially in Tibet and Xinjiang."
https://www.hrw.org/legacy/campaigns/ch ... ligion.htm

Ironically, Christianity is the fastest growing religion in China.

No, I was pointing out my error. The biggest persecutors in the world are atheists was my point here.

[JoeyKnothead]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #62]

Show me where I claimed what you say in this thread and I will see what I can do for you.

There ya go, Christian, avoid, deflect, and delay, then ask me to wade back through the cess pool you created.

I have zero confidence you'll honor your claim here.

I trust the observer has the data they need to conclude you'll simply not be bothered to support your claims.

The liar lies, and the preacher preaches.

[brunumb]

No, I was pointing out my error. The biggest persecutors in the world are atheists was my point here.

Nah. All you are doing is flinging mud at the barn and hoping some of it will stick.

Move along folks. Nothing to see here.

[Willum]

[Replying to Wootah in post #60]

Of course you feel attacked. It’s a “personal god,” you have. To attack your personal god, or anyone’s imaginary friend they think is real, is to attack a personal delusion. Science has shown people feel a personal attack when this is so.

However, if you kept to the subject, instead of making tangential and dismissed claims, you wouldn’t feel this way.

So go back to the “subjective nonsense” you claim I was making and demonstrate it is subjective and nonsense, with something more than your claim YOUR beliefs are absolute.

Since you can’t, an honest person, a Christian person, would admit they can not distinguish their foundations from made-up stories and unrealistic hopes.

[Wootah]

[Replying to Willum in post #69]

I didnt say i felt attacked. I don't think i opened any of the tangents in this thread either.