Can anyone give good reason to believe Yahweh is not a demon?
Demand animal sacrifices.
Demand the Hebrew commit genocide for a cultural misunderstanding.
A demon would murder planets because he was having a tantrum.
When the Hebrew's generations were weakened by following it, had them undergo genocides themselves.
A demon would allow Adam and Eve to be corrupted, for reasons opaque. (Perfect beings not intending to sin, sinning.)
A demon would be defeated by a greater power (Satan) yet claim victory.
A demon would turn people to salt for looking back.
A demon would claim to love you, while sending most folks to Hell.
A demon would write a book saying he was good, omnipotent and full of all sorts of propaganda.
A demon would re-name itself "God," to capitalize on the conflation with the benevolence of deities.
...and so on.
Can anyone provide good reason to not suspect Yahweh is a demon?
Can anyone give good reason to believe Yahweh is not a demon?
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Re: Can anyone give good reason to believe Yahweh is not a demon?
Post #81[Replying to William in post #80]
PS - The use of Yahwey as YHVH btw, is nothing special. It is how ancient languages write all words... they don't use vowels.
Willum is written WLLM, William would be written WLL'M, it doesn't turn you into a god, it is just amazement for the uneducated.
Which is just to say, Yahwey is imaginary.Rather, he can be either, depending upon personal refection. If one thinks YVHV is a demon, one will eventually encounter that aspect one believes YVHV to being.
PS - The use of Yahwey as YHVH btw, is nothing special. It is how ancient languages write all words... they don't use vowels.
Willum is written WLLM, William would be written WLL'M, it doesn't turn you into a god, it is just amazement for the uneducated.
I will never understand how someone who claims to know the ultimate truth, of God, believes they deserve respect, when they cannot distinguish it from a fairy-tale.
You know, science and logic are hard: Religion and fairy tales might be more your speed.
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Re: Can anyone give good reason to believe Yahweh is not a demon?
Post #82Plenty fair.Wootah wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:42 am Hi guys,
I am hoping to post this as appeasement. I live by faith and not by sight. I haven't seen God or experienced any miracles. I have read and listened, participated at church and acted upon and put my faith in the Bible as the word of God. So far so good. Not that I treat it as prosperity gospel, in fact, I think it is of far more value to the suffering. I believe there is enough evidence for the actuality of the bible events having occurred. So I don't know what else you want me to say.
One reason I challenge claims I know can't be shown truthful is to help the less experienced observer understand just how little truth there is in Truth(tm)the.Anyway. If you expected more that's all I've got.
Yet so many Christians purport to be "loving" by promoting as a moral guide a god that ain't but a little bit of it - at best.
Meh. I don't even believe he exists.But I can understand why you support YHWH is a demon in this thread...
Or, like the moth, ya die an unfortunate death....but if you head towards the light you might find out God is good one day.
Notice here the implication that only belief in god/s can lead one to the "light" (of good?). One final, last, desperate bid to try to get folks to believe in claims that can't be shown to be truth.
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Post #83[Replying to Willum in post #81]
Rather, he can be either, depending upon personal refection. If one thinks YVHV is a demon, one will eventually encounter that aspect one believes YVHV to being.
Maybe - maybe not. I have seen no particular evidence either way.Which is just to say, Yahwey is imaginary.
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Post #84That's odd, because to every single test you can make, Yahweh is indistinguishable from the imaginary.William wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:52 pm [Replying to Willum in post #81]
Rather, he can be either, depending upon personal refection. If one thinks YVHV is a demon, one will eventually encounter that aspect one believes YVHV to being.Maybe - maybe not. I have seen no particular evidence either way.Which is just to say, Yahwey is imaginary.
He even has stories like Superman.
I will never understand how someone who claims to know the ultimate truth, of God, believes they deserve respect, when they cannot distinguish it from a fairy-tale.
You know, science and logic are hard: Religion and fairy tales might be more your speed.
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Post #85It is no more 'odd' than threads asking for answers to imaginary questions...Willum wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:14 pmThat's odd, because to every single test you can make, Yahweh is indistinguishable from the imaginary.William wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:52 pm [Replying to Willum in post #81]
Rather, he can be either, depending upon personal refection. If one thinks YVHV is a demon, one will eventually encounter that aspect one believes YVHV to being.Maybe - maybe not. I have seen no particular evidence either way.Which is just to say, Yahwey is imaginary.
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Post #86[Replying to William in post #85]
Except of course imaginary gods, religions divine-friends get so much attention, and are taken seriously.
Except of course imaginary gods, religions divine-friends get so much attention, and are taken seriously.
I will never understand how someone who claims to know the ultimate truth, of God, believes they deserve respect, when they cannot distinguish it from a fairy-tale.
You know, science and logic are hard: Religion and fairy tales might be more your speed.
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Post #87But to many they aren't imaginary questions or, rather questions about imaginary claims. After all, even Sci Fi and fantasy has to make sense, even if it has magic or advanced technology that looks like it.William wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:18 pmIt is no more 'odd' than threads asking for answers to imaginary questions...Willum wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:14 pmThat's odd, because to every single test you can make, Yahweh is indistinguishable from the imaginary.William wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:52 pm [Replying to Willum in post #81]
Rather, he can be either, depending upon personal refection. If one thinks YVHV is a demon, one will eventually encounter that aspect one believes YVHV to being.Maybe - maybe not. I have seen no particular evidence either way.Which is just to say, Yahwey is imaginary.
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Post #88[Replying to TRANSPONDER in post #87]
Indeed, if the stories of YHWH were fictional - or loosely based upon an actual person - possible questions and answers can still be given, conclusions drawn and opinions offered.
Rather, he can be either, depending upon personal refection. If one thinks YVHV is a demon, one will eventually encounter that aspect one believes YVHV to being.
Biblically speaking, this seems to run through the script.
Generally speaking, the branch of theism known as Gnosticism regards YVHV as the demiurge...a false creator-God who has deceived the world and suppressed humankind into servitude...so - in that sense Gnosticism regards YVHV more the 'demon' entity than a true representation of GOD.
Which is just to say, Yahwey is imaginary.
Maybe - maybe not. I have seen no particular evidence either way.
That's odd, because to every single test you can make, Yahweh is indistinguishable from the imaginary.
It is no more 'odd' than threads asking for answers to imaginary questions...
Yes. So again I say re YHVH - maybe the Character is imaginary, maybe not. I have seen no particular evidence either way and therefore answer questions to do with YHWH, along those lines.But to many they aren't imaginary questions or, rather questions about imaginary claims. After all, even Sci Fi and fantasy has to make sense, even if it has magic or advanced technology that looks like it.
Indeed, if the stories of YHWH were fictional - or loosely based upon an actual person - possible questions and answers can still be given, conclusions drawn and opinions offered.
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Post #89Is YHWH imaginary?
I do truly think YHWH represents the first truly invisible God. So again this thread is apt.
Is YHWH a demon? Yes to the anti YHWH.
Is YHWH imaginary? Yes to the anti YHWH.
I do truly think YHWH represents the first truly invisible God. So again this thread is apt.
Is YHWH a demon? Yes to the anti YHWH.
Is YHWH imaginary? Yes to the anti YHWH.
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Post #90[Replying to Wootah in post #89]
What gives you that understanding?I do truly think YHWH represents the first truly invisible God.