Jesus NEVER saved...

[Willum]

... A single woman from being raped.
... A single child from abuse.
... A single victim from murder.
... The Jews in the Holocaust.

Why should you believe he will save you, after you have died and are helpless?

[Willum]

[Replying to bjs1 in post #10]

You did not challenge them with facts.
You did not show where Jesus stopped them, necessary for him to have stopped them.
If you are saying he used magic to stop a rape that didn't happen, I am afraid that isn't religion we are discussing but sanity.

This is becoming embarrassing, you said you were moving on.

[brunumb]

... A single woman from being raped.
... A single child from abuse.
... A single victim from murder.
... The Jews in the Holocaust.

Why should you believe he will save you, after you have died and are helpless?

I'm not sure how much this matters, but: How do you know any these claims to be true?

Based on the statistics we have for actual rape, child abuse, murders and victims of the Holocaust, if Jesus did actually ever save anyone it is insignificant to the point of being unworthy of recognition anyway.