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Why is divorce not an option for Christians?

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In marriage, spouses leave their parents and unite with each other (Mark 10:7) to become one flesh (Gen.2: 24). Because, it is a covenant of love, and God is love (1 John4:8), it is God who seals the marriage covenant; and no one can separate what God has joined together (Matt 19:6). In divorce, therefore, this covenant is not broken; it is rejected. Therefore, remarriage after divorce is adultery (Luke 16:18). Furthermore, since God seals this covenant, divorce is rejection of God. God, therefore, hates divorce (Malachi 2:16) and is not pleased with the offerings of those who divorce their spouse (Malachi 2: 13-14). Jesus tells us that before making offering to God, we must reconcile with those with whom we have grievances (Matt. 5: 23-24). Therefore, a divorced person must first reconcile with his/her spouse before making an offering to the Lord. Furthermore, even if there is unfaithfulness a person must still stay faith to his/her spouse, just as God His faithful to us even when we reject Him (Hosea 3:1).

Divorce is absolutely prohibited in the Gospels (Mk 10:11-12, Luke 6:18; Matthew 5: 31-32). In Matthew’s gospel there appears to be an exception. The exception in the Greek text is porneia (which means incest or fornication), and not moiceia (which means adultery). In the Mosaic Law (Lv 18:6-18) certain types of marriages between close relatives were unlawful, because, they were regarded as incest (porneia). Certain rabbis, however, allowed gentile converts to Judaism to remain in such marriages. The exemption in Matthew’s gospel is against such permissiveness for gentile converts to Christianity. Fornication is another meaning for porneia. Therefore, this exception also applies to couples who fornicate by living together without a lawful marriage (also known as common law marriages).

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cynthiabilderback wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:05 am The truth is that "marriages are made in heaven." When people love each other, there is nothing more beautiful than this. Especially when they build relationships in accordance with the will of God.
However, our marriage with my husband seems to be torn apart. I thought that everything was fine with us and there were no problems in our marriage, but increasingly, I began to notice that my husband was no longer interested in me. Moreover, he treats me badly, sometimes even hits me. Why? I bore him two children in marriage. I love him with all my heart, and every night I pray to God for our marriage. But I'm afraid that I will have to take the first step and file for divorce, cause his attitude towards me is unbearable. Then will I break the will of God?
Be careful whose advice you listen to here. Most are not Christian. Are you Christian?

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Quantrill wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:05 pm Be careful whose advice you listen to here. Most are not Christian. Are you Christian?
Why would a person's religious preference make any difference in advising about divorce?

Are Christians who consider divorce different from Non-Christians who consider divorce?

Christians divorce at rates comparable to Non-Christians.

This study represents and update in 2018. There is little reason the think that there has been much change:
The Barna Research Group, an evangelical Christian organization that does surveys and research to better understand what Christians believe and how they behave, studied divorce rates in America in 1999 and found surprising evidence that divorce is far lower among atheists than among conservative Christians - exactly the opposite of what they were probably expecting.

11% of all American adults are divorced
25% of all American adults have had at least one divorce
27% of born-again Christians have had at least one divorce
24% of all non-born-again Christians have been divorced
21% of atheists have been divorced
21% of Catholics and Lutherans have been divorced
24% of Mormons have been divorced
25% of mainstream Protestants have been divorced
29% of Baptists have been divorced
24% of nondenominational, independent Protestants have been divorced
27% of people in the South and Midwest have been divorced
26% of people in the West have been divorced
19% of people in the Northwest and Northeast have been divorced

The highest divorce rates are in the Bible Belt: "Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama, and Oklahoma round out the Top Five in the frequency of divorce...the divorce rates in these conservative states are roughly 50 percent above the national average" of 4.2/1000 people. Nine states in the Northeast (Connecticut, Maine, New Hampshire, New York, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Rhode Island, New Jersey, and Maryland) have the lowest divorce rates, averaging just 3.5/1000 people.
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Zzyzx wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:39 pm .
Why would a person's religious preference make any difference in advising about divorce?
The title of the thread is 'why is divorce not an option for Christians?' Isn't it?

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Zzyzx wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:39 pm Why would a person's religious preference make any difference in advising about divorce?
The title of the thread is 'why is divorce not an option for Christians?' Isn't it?
According the statistics, divorce IS an option for Christians -- just as it is for others (when secular law prevails rather than theocracy). Advice from people who divorce as much as others while preaching against divorce seems rather unwise. 'Hypocrite' is the applicable term for those who talk one way and act another.

Why would / should any one accept advice from an organization that is hypocritical?
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Zzyzx wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:02 pm .
According the statistics, divorce IS an option for Christians -- just as it is for others (when secular law prevails rather than theocracy). Advice from people who divorce as much as others while preaching against divorce seems rather unwise. 'Hypocrite' is the applicable term for those who talk one way and act another.

Why would / should any one accept advice from an organization that is hypocritical?
You know what Mark Twain said about statistics? Everyone will get some 'statistics' to prove their side.

If one is a Christian then they look to the Bible and their Christian faith and family for advice. They don't go to the world for advice.

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Quantrill wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:26 pm You know what Mark Twain said about statistics? Everyone will get some 'statistics' to prove their side.
I challenge you to produce statistics that show Christians do NOT divorce at rates comparable to others.
Quantrill wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:26 pm If one is a Christian then they look to the Bible and their Christian faith and family for advice. They don't go to the world for advice.
People of any faith (or no faith) seeking advice concerning divorce would be well advised to consult with marriage counselors rather than family and church friends. The Bible is no help except advising in cases of adultery (while telling women to be subservient to men).
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Zzyzx wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:53 pm .
People of any faith (or no faith) seeking advice concerning divorce would be well advised to consult with marriage counselors rather than family and church friends. The Bible is no help except advising in cases of adultery (while telling women to be subservient to men).
Hopefully if will be a counselor who is aware of the cycle of abuse:

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Without intervention, this abusive cycle is likely to not only continue, but to intensify over time. Sadly, even with intervention, the result may be the same.

Once physical and mental abuse has become a standard component of the abusive spouse's actions, it is time to separate safely and strongly consider eventual divorce. Any advice that refuses to consider this often necessary option should be ignored.

It is not an exaggeration to say that refusing to consider this option could be a lethal mistake.


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Zzyzx wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:53 pm .
I challenge you to produce statistics that show Christians do NOT divorce at rates comparable to others.

People of any faith (or no faith) seeking advice concerning divorce would be well advised to consult with marriage counselors rather than family and church friends. The Bible is no help except advising in cases of adultery (while telling women to be subservient to men).
Not interested. There are so many 'churches' and people who fall under the category as 'Christian' but who are not, that such an attempt is futile.

To the Christian, the Bible is the help. I'm not saying people who are not Christian should go by the Bible. But the Christian should.

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No one should stay in an unhappy marriage, whatever their faith.

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Quantrill wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:29 am
Zzyzx wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:53 pm I challenge you to produce statistics that show Christians do NOT divorce at rates comparable to others.

People of any faith (or no faith) seeking advice concerning divorce would be well advised to consult with marriage counselors rather than family and church friends. The Bible is no help except advising in cases of adultery (while telling women to be subservient to men).
Not interested. There are so many 'churches' and people who fall under the category as 'Christian' but who are not, that such an attempt is futile.
YES. Point fingers at each other and yell 'FAKE'. I agree – no exceptions.

Of course each finger pointer thinks THEY are the exception, the REAL Christians – it is just others who are fake. But THEY just happen to have chosen the right 'god' among thousands proposed and the right religion among tens of thousands. Fat chance.

What a hoot. All reading versions of the same ancient book, totally convinced they read better than everyone else, and they (only they) have found 'the one true path to salvation' (after they die).

However, when counting noses to brag about being the world's largest religion, they count every cult, sect, splinter group, and denomination (and the dog under the porch).

It might be illuminating to Google “No true Scotsman” blunder in logic.
Quantrill wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:29 am To the Christian, the Bible is the help. I'm not saying people who are not Christian should go by the Bible. But the Christian should.
When a vehicle has a major malfunction it is usually desirable to consult a trained mechanic familiar with the vehicle rather than relying on what friends and fellow church members think is wrong (or looking for solutions in ancient literature).
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