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Antifa takes over Seattle, Washington

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There is now evidence that Antifa group was in the midst of the protestors. Coinciding with the timing of recent protests, now Antifa has taken over a few city blocks in a Seattle area and they're calling it the "autonomous zone".

https://www.city-journal.org/antifa-sea ... omous-zone


And their real agenda was not about George Floyd but rather they used those protests to incite more chaos. The New York times reports the real agenda:
While Mr. Floyd’s death in Minneapolis drove most of the energy in the streets toward ending police violence and racial injustice, some of those here in recent days have pushed for a wider focus. Some of the messages mirror the 2011 Occupy movement and seemed aimed at targeting corporate America for its role in social inequities.

"The more we encourage and focus on the race thing, the greater our attention is not focusing on the fact that this is class warfare,” said a 28-year-old protester and self-described anarchist who identified himself only by his first name, Fredrix.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... e.amp.html

So the real agenda is not about race.

Why did mainstream media ignore all of the evidence that Antifa was involved?

Does this show the weakness of Democrats (Washington State Governor is a Democrat) when they let domestic terrorists take over their neighborhoods?

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Wait a minute, has it been taken for granted in this thread that antifa is a violent group? Are the typical non-violent anti-fascist not considered "Antifa"?

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Bust Nak wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:24 pm Wait a minute, has it been taken for granted in this thread that antifa is a violent group? Are the typical non-violent anti-fascist not considered "Antifa"?

As I have shown through various links, despite Trump's claims there simply is no proof Antifa is behind any of this violence. On the contrary plenty of evidence to show radical right wing involvement in the violence already been posted here by me.

It must be understood that according to right wingers, it is always fashionable and politically correct to blame Antifa, liberals, George Soros, Bernie Sanders, Democrats, social justice warriors, and anybody else who dares to stray from the rigid and unprincipled right wing ideology for every mishap that occurs in society. When pressed to present evidence of their claims, they clam up and present no evidence whatsoever. Then they repeat the claims.

Read my posts and you will see how I constantly challenge them to post evidence of their claims. As always, they fail to present even a shred of evidence to support their unfounded contentions. Not one shred.
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Bust Nak wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:24 pm Wait a minute, has it been taken for granted in this thread that antifa is a violent group? Are the typical non-violent anti-fascist not considered "Antifa"?
Antifa is not necessarily violent. Just the ones in Seattle's "autonomous zone" are violent.

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Fake news Fox network doctoring pictures from Seattle:


Fox News Doctored Photos of Seattle Protest Zone: Report


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... mous-zone/


Fox News reportedly spliced together a photo of an armed man with separate photos of broken shop windows and road barriers to create two misleading images for a report on Seattle’s police-free protest area, called the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. The Seattle Times reports Fox had no disclaimers indicating the pictures—taken more than a week apart—had been altered. The network removed them when questions were raised but reportedly replaced them with an image taken before the zone was established.

Fox also removed a photo of a burning city it had put above stories about Seattle; the picture actually showed an earlier protest in Minnesota. President Trump has been in a tizzy about the autonomous zone, claiming anarchists are now in control of the city, while Seattle officials note the zone has been mainly peaceful.



This is not the first times these radical right wingers have distorted the news. That is because the Fox network more often than not presents FAKE NEWS.

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koko wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:47 pm Fake news Fox network doctoring pictures from Seattle:


Fox News Doctored Photos of Seattle Protest Zone: Report


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... mous-zone/


Fox News reportedly spliced together a photo of an armed man with separate photos of broken shop windows and road barriers to create two misleading images for a report on Seattle’s police-free protest area, called the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. The Seattle Times reports Fox had no disclaimers indicating the pictures—taken more than a week apart—had been altered. The network removed them when questions were raised but reportedly replaced them with an image taken before the zone was established.

Fox also removed a photo of a burning city it had put above stories about Seattle; the picture actually showed an earlier protest in Minnesota. President Trump has been in a tizzy about the autonomous zone, claiming anarchists are now in control of the city, while Seattle officials note the zone has been mainly peaceful.



This is not the first times these radical right wingers have distorted the news. That is because the Fox network more often than not presents FAKE NEWS.
That's because the war is over. The protestors won when the police retreated. Now let the cops try to come back and retake the "autonomous zone" then we will see how long the peace will last.

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No evidence ANYWHERE to prove the claim Antifa has been involved in violence:


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/scant ... r-BB15ruZ7


Federal and local arrest records in dozens of cities make virtually no mention of antifa. Law enforcement officials who had braced for the purported invasion of antifa militants in cities large and small now mostly acknowledge the threat has not appeared.



By contrast, all the evidence suggests it is right wing radicals behind the violence:

https://www.inquirer.com/news/white-sup ... 00613.html

... far-right extremists have found opportunity in the social and political upheaval.

Groups have used a playbook experts say extremists have long relied on: Latch onto in-person and online movements, whether they agree with the message or not, to establish a foothold in new communities, recruit members, and, in some cases, simply sow mayhem.

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koko wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:15 am No evidence ANYWHERE to prove the claim Antifa has been involved in violence:


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/scant ... r-BB15ruZ7


Federal and local arrest records in dozens of cities make virtually no mention of antifa. Law enforcement officials who had braced for the purported invasion of antifa militants in cities large and small now mostly acknowledge the threat has not appeared.



By contrast, all the evidence suggests it is right wing radicals behind the violence:

https://www.inquirer.com/news/white-sup ... 00613.html

... far-right extremists have found opportunity in the social and political upheaval.

Groups have used a playbook experts say extremists have long relied on: Latch onto in-person and online movements, whether they agree with the message or not, to establish a foothold in new communities, recruit members, and, in some cases, simply sow mayhem.
No evidence of "White supremacists" in Seattle's autonomous zone either. The extremists are are aligned to Left wing positions, and in a predominantly DEMOCRAT city with DEMOCRAT leaders.

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AgnosticBoy wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:49 am


No evidence of "White supremacists" in Seattle's autonomous zone either. The extremists are are aligned to Left wing positions, and in a predominantly DEMOCRAT city with DEMOCRAT leaders.

Name them. Note that, so far, all has been non violent protests especially after a judge ordered police to stop using poison gas.

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koko wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:09 pm
AgnosticBoy wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:49 am


No evidence of "White supremacists" in Seattle's autonomous zone either. The extremists are are aligned to Left wing positions, and in a predominantly DEMOCRAT city with DEMOCRAT leaders.

Name them. Note that, so far, all has been non violent protests especially after a judge ordered police to stop using poison gas.
Governor jay inslee and mayor Jenny durkan. Both Democrats and both weak on security. Rest assured if this were a group of White supremacists Fox News might have reported favorably on them that hasn't been the case.

And then going to go by the views of the protesters which will let you know that they are not right wing nor white supremacist. That's been settled.

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AgnosticBoy wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:04 pm
Antifa is not necessarily violent. Just the ones in Seattle's "autonomous zone" are violent.
This is an interesting claim. It is an unsupported one until you provide evidence to support it. Care to do so or are bald assertions the extent of the argumentation we should expect?


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