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Antifa takes over Seattle, Washington

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There is now evidence that Antifa group was in the midst of the protestors. Coinciding with the timing of recent protests, now Antifa has taken over a few city blocks in a Seattle area and they're calling it the "autonomous zone".

https://www.city-journal.org/antifa-sea ... omous-zone


And their real agenda was not about George Floyd but rather they used those protests to incite more chaos. The New York times reports the real agenda:
While Mr. Floyd’s death in Minneapolis drove most of the energy in the streets toward ending police violence and racial injustice, some of those here in recent days have pushed for a wider focus. Some of the messages mirror the 2011 Occupy movement and seemed aimed at targeting corporate America for its role in social inequities.

"The more we encourage and focus on the race thing, the greater our attention is not focusing on the fact that this is class warfare,” said a 28-year-old protester and self-described anarchist who identified himself only by his first name, Fredrix.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... e.amp.html

So the real agenda is not about race.

Why did mainstream media ignore all of the evidence that Antifa was involved?

Does this show the weakness of Democrats (Washington State Governor is a Democrat) when they let domestic terrorists take over their neighborhoods?

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Tcg wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:14 pm
AgnosticBoy wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:04 pm
Antifa is not necessarily violent. Just the ones in Seattle's "autonomous zone" are violent.
This is an interesting claim. It is an unsupported one until you provide evidence to support it. Care to do so or are bald assertions the extent of the argumentation we should expect?


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Your not being convinced doesn't mean I have not presented evidence. I am not here to present evidence to someone's satisfaction or to the point of convincing someone. If you don't like that fact then you are free to ignore my posts or move on.

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koko wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:47 pm President Trump has been in a tizzy about the autonomous zone, claiming anarchists are now in control of the city, while Seattle officials note the zone has been mainly peaceful.



This is not the first times these radical right wingers have distorted the news. That is because the Fox network more often than not presents FAKE NEWS.
Yeah, it's been so peaceful that this fight broke out (if video doesn't play then watch it directly on Twitter by clicking on the twitter bird icon at the top right of the tweet posting):


So much for not needing the police. And we only know what they allow people to film. Who is to say there isn't any drugs and other crimes going on that these anarchists don't want people to know about? After they are willing to allow FULL transparency, then we can talk about how "peaceful" they are.

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AgnosticBoy wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:56 pm
Governor jay inslee and mayor Jenny durkan. Both Democrats and both weak on security. Rest assured if this were a group of White supremacists Fox News might have reported favorably on them that hasn't been the case.

And then going to go by the views of the protesters which will let you know that they are not right wing nor white supremacist. That's been settled.


You can believe what you want but the record clearly and unequivocally shows NOT ONE MEMBER OF ANTIFA has been charged with any arson crime:





But it has found three members of ultra right in those troubles:



https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/06 ... s-protests

Three white men are facing terrorism-related charges in Nevada after allegedly planning to incite violence at protests over the death of George Floyd.

Federal prosecutors describe the men as being connected to the "boogaloo" movement, which is associated with far-right extremists who support an uprising against the government.


Yes, even the Fox network has reported this fact:


https://www.foxnews.com/us/boogaloo-sus ... s-feds-say





Yes, contrary to Trump's pretensions and others made by conservatives, it is the radical far right that is inciting hate, terrorism, and violence. Antifa has NOT been found to be involved in any of this.


Let's see if the government tries to set something up in order to bring discredit to the left/progs/Dems or whomever.

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koko wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:18 am
AgnosticBoy wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:56 pm
Governor jay inslee and mayor Jenny durkan. Both Democrats and both weak on security. Rest assured if this were a group of White supremacists Fox News might have reported favorably on them that hasn't been the case.

And then going to go by the views of the protesters which will let you know that they are not right wing nor white supremacist. That's been settled.


You can believe what you want but the record clearly and unequivocally shows NOT ONE MEMBER OF ANTIFA has been charged with any arson crime:

But it has found three members of ultra right in those troubles:

Three white men are facing terrorism-related charges in Nevada after allegedly planning to incite violence at protests over the death of George Floyd.

Federal prosecutors describe the men as being connected to the "boogaloo" movement, which is associated with far-right extremists who support an uprising against the government.


Yes, even the Fox network has reported this fact:


https://www.foxnews.com/us/boogaloo-sus ... s-feds-say





Yes, contrary to Trump's pretensions and others made by conservatives, it is the radical far right that is inciting hate, terrorism, and violence. Antifa has NOT been found to be involved in any of this.


Let's see if the government tries to set something up in order to bring discredit to the left/progs/Dems or whomever.
Using bold and large size font will not convince me. Good logic and evidence is what convinces me. I have my own evidence and it proves that it is not only Right wing groups, assuming that the Right Wing leaning groups are really involved, are not the only ones inciting violent protests. :D

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AgnosticBoy wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:48 am


Using bold and large size font will not convince me. Good logic and evidence is what convinces me. I have my own evidence and it proves that it is not only Right wing groups, assuming that the Right Wing leaning groups are really involved, are not the only ones inciting violent protests. :D

You have your own evidence?

Let's see it so that we can determine whether it would stand up in a court of law. After all, even the Federal government which is controlled by Trump has no such evidence. This should be interesting.

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koko wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:04 pm
AgnosticBoy wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:48 am


Using bold and large size font will not convince me. Good logic and evidence is what convinces me. I have my own evidence and it proves that it is not only Right wing groups, assuming that the Right Wing leaning groups are really involved, are not the only ones inciting violent protests. :D

You have your own evidence?

Let's see it so that we can determine whether it would stand up in a court of law. After all, even the Federal government which is controlled by Trump has no such evidence. This should be interesting.
It is not my responsibility to keep repeating my evidence. I recommend that everyone go back and read my posts if they are interested in seeing it. White supremacists are NOT involved, period.

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AgnosticBoy wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:22 pm
koko wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:04 pm
AgnosticBoy wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:48 am


Using bold and large size font will not convince me. Good logic and evidence is what convinces me. I have my own evidence and it proves that it is not only Right wing groups, assuming that the Right Wing leaning groups are really involved, are not the only ones inciting violent protests. :D

You have your own evidence?

Let's see it so that we can determine whether it would stand up in a court of law. After all, even the Federal government which is controlled by Trump has no such evidence. This should be interesting.
It is not my responsibility to keep repeating my evidence. I recommend that everyone go back and read my posts if they are interested in seeing it. White supremacists are NOT involved, period.
Even if we pretend you've provided this evidence, that doesn't support your claim that Antifa in Seattle is violent.


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I along with the rest of the world await the "evidence".

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AgnosticBoy wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:30 am
If you don't like that fact then you are free to ignore my posts or move on.
I am also free to continue to challenge your unsupported claims and urge you to present facts to support your claims. So far you have refused to even attempt to do so.


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Tcg wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:08 am
AgnosticBoy wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:30 am
If you don't like that fact then you are free to ignore my posts or move on.
I am also free to continue to challenge your unsupported claims and urge you to present facts to support your claims. So far you have refused to even attempt to do so.
I am not obligated to keep repeating my evidence. The problem is not that I haven't presented evidence, but rather it is that you're not convinced. You are free to ignore my post and move on just as I was told to do when I complained about members making unsubstantiated claims. Au revoir.

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