Is there love without love for God?

[arunangelo]

To Love, we must love God. God is the Spirit of love. Therefore, to love others, we must first accept God’s spirit; and to accept his spirit, we must love Him. Love has no place for hate, because pure love hates no one. We can, therefore, never love God, if we hate even one person. To love God, is to express the love, Jesus expressed for us on the cross. Our love, therefore, must be pure, unconditional, total, selfless and sacrificial. Furthermore, we should avoid sin, out of pure love for God and our fellow human beings, and not out of fear of punishment.

[Menotu]

[Replying to post 1 by arunangelo]

To Love, we must love God.

Nopers
To love, you have to love yourself. Then you can give love and (hopefully) get it in return

[Divine Insight]

To Love, we must love God.

In Christian mythology we are required to love God. Therefore we must be the source of love. God cannot be the source of love if we are being asked to love God.

Therefore we don't need to love God in order to be capable of love.

This is one of the many self-contradictory facts about Christian mythology that reveals its fallacy.

[2timothy316]

Define love.

[Checkpoint]

To Love, we must love God.

In Christian mythology we are required to love God. Therefore we must be the source of love. God cannot be the source of love if we are being asked to love God.

Therefore we don't need to love God in order to be capable of love.

This is one of the many self-contradictory facts about Christian mythology that reveals its fallacy.

Maybe take a little break?

What kind of love?

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 1 by arunangelo]

To Love, we must love God.

Nopers
To love, you have to love yourself. Then you can give love and (hopefully) get it in return

That's pretty much what Jesus said a few times.

[Checkpoint]

To Love, we must love God. God is the Spirit of love. Therefore, to love others, we must first accept God’s spirit; and to accept his spirit, we must love Him. Love has no place for hate, because pure love hates no one. We can, therefore, never love God, if we hate even one person. To love God, is to express the love, Jesus expressed for us on the cross. Our love, therefore, must be pure, unconditional, total, selfless and sacrificial. Furthermore, we should avoid sin, out of pure love for God and our fellow human beings, and not out of fear of punishment.

Yes, Jesus expressed it, and addressed us to be and to do likewise.

John 15:

12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.

13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.

[Overcomer]

2timothy3:16 rightly asked for a definition of love. Biblical love is a selfless, sacrificial love wherein we put the other person first. It isn't about warm and fuzzy feelings. It's about wanting God's best for even those who would make themselves our enemy.

I think that human love is selfish love. Even if we do something to please someone else, ultimately, it's because we want a positive and, hopefully, loving response from them.

Therefore, I do think that, if we are to love as Jesus asks us to love, we aren't able to do it fully in our own power. We need the Holy Spirit to make it possible. As John wrote:

We love because he first loved us (1 John 4:29).

Jesus epitomizes love and demonstrates his love for us at the cross. Without his example, would we really understand what love truly is? After all, God created us to be in a loving relationship with him and with each other. God doesn't just love. He IS love (1 John 4:8).

See here:

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-s ... f-god.html

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 1 by arunangelo]

Love itself is unconditional, but the bad things that people DO makes themselves be in a position to be disciplined. It is loving to try and correct an evil-acting person, so that they will not continue to harm others, and so that they can also live a happy life, not fraught with problems. It would not be love if bad people were not made to cease their wickedness.


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