Difflugia wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:33 pm
DavidLeon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:51 amAhhh, the implications. Looking for the Science Utopia. The more one sided your perspective is the more predictable the outcome. History repeats itself. Our little rebellious atheists are growing up. All full of vinegar. Not a clue. As they get older their thinking will become a replica of the old guard.
A bunch of youthful rebels that ultimately return to orthodoxy? That hardly sounds like atheism.
We aren't really debating here are we? Just trading vaguely insulting jabs? You can already see it happen in militant atheism. I don't think it applies to the average non-militant atheism.
Difflugia wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:33 pmThat sounds much more like the myriad of young Christians that lack the experience to understand the doctrinal nuance of larger organizations.
I think they must understand it pretty well if they are wisely avoiding those large organizations like the plague. They also see the same in non-religious organizations. That may be wishful thinking on my part, I don't get out much these days.
Difflugia wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:33 pmThey think that there's a way to "just believe the Bible" that keeps most of the doctrinal comfort in which they were raised, while surgically excising the inconsistent flaws. Many eventually begin to see that the doctrinal inconsistency is rooted in Scriptural inconsistency and the various organizations, having been down that road, no longer think so differently after all. They then return to find the comfort that they missed, often without even realizing it.
No. They are, ideally, aware that the doctrinal mutations they were raised on are as insignificant as the alleged scriptural foundation, which is nil in meaning to them anyway. So, unfortunately the Christian child sees the blatant hypocrisy of their parents and congregation elders and goes off to sow his or her wild suggestive whirligigs or what have you, then when it comes time to start a family they go back to that familiar spiritual void that was their foundation.
In my day at least that's what they did. I don't know what the kids are doing these days. Don't care. If they want to be idiot Christians or idiot Atheists it makes little difference. They are in the same sinking ship of fools. As far as they're concerned it's all the same as long as they maintain the idiot status of the masses. Same as the dark ages, only now with cell phones.
Difflugia wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:33 pmSome, though, find their comfort in that very apartness and cultivate it. Their increasingly Byzantine doctrinal complexity coupled with a narrow, black-and-white rigidity provides both clarity and identity such that over time, their church's congregation converges toward the perfect size, that of a single member.
Maybe your criticism is myopically focused on the opposition. The Christian. Atheism has a collective sense of the nondenominational because it has no room for division. Free thinking seems to only imply free from thought.