As it is written;
“If the son frees you, you’ll truly be free.“
Another;
“If you abide in my word you are truly my disciple then you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.”
Notice each verse claims to set you free. Why? Because they are essentially saying the same thing.
When one abides or continues in spreading Gods word they are the son. That is how the son frees you.
Has the son freed you as described?
Being free, truly.
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Post #2So, just how many people are there that make up the son? And is this son somehow different from the son others become? If so, why is it the son is dependent on those that become the son to free me?Bobcat wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:22 pm As it is written;
“If the son frees you, you’ll truly be free.“
Another;
“If you abide in my word you are truly my disciple then you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.”
Notice each verse claims to set you free. Why? Because they are essentially saying the same thing.
When one abides or continues in spreading Gods word they are the son. That is how the son frees you.
Has the son freed you as described?
It's all rather confusing.
AND, freed from what?
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Post #3The son is not dependent on you but you on him.Miles wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:57 pmSo, just how many people are there that make up the son? And is this son somehow different from the son others become? If so, why is it the son is dependent on those that become the son to free me?Bobcat wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:22 pm As it is written;
“If the son frees you, you’ll truly be free.“
Another;
“If you abide in my word you are truly my disciple then you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.”
Notice each verse claims to set you free. Why? Because they are essentially saying the same thing.
When one abides or continues in spreading Gods word they are the son. That is how the son frees you.
Has the son freed you as described?
It's all rather confusing.
AND, freed from what?
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As it is written;
“I shall declare the decrees of the Lord; He said to me, you are my son, this day I have begotten you.”
“Israel is my son, my first born, let my son go so he can serve me.”
Notice the two verses in which a God declares a son. In each verse the son serves God.
In the first he is declaring Gods decrees, His word. Same as in the OP.
So it is those who serve God and declare His Word who are the son and Israel, His servant.
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Post #4So what? Lots of things are written. Lots of things are written in alleged holy books. Many say very different things, particularly concerning gods. Why should we take notice of any of them let alone any particular one?
George Orwell:: “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
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Post #5? ? ? Okay.
Fine, but what does this have to do with explaining your comment "When one abides or continues in spreading Gods word they are the son. That is how the son frees you.Bobcat wrote:
As it is written;
“I shall declare the decrees of the Lord; He said to me, you are my son, this day I have begotten you.”
“Israel is my son, my first born, let my son go so he can serve me.”
Notice the two verses in which a God declares a son. In each verse the son serves God.
Has the son freed you as described? "?
I asked you four questions about it, none of which you gave a direct answer to.
And just a note on posting practices here. Any quotes from the Bible should be identified by their book, chapter, and verse(s). e.g.
Psalm 2:7
I shall declare the decrees of the Lord; He said to me, you are my . . . .
I shall declare the decrees of the Lord; He said to me, you are my . . . .
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Post #6You asked me has the son freed me.
Yes. I do declare the decrees of the Lord. I do abide and continue in His word.
As it is written;
“Whoever speaks on his own seeks his own glory but he who seeks the glory of the One who sent him is truthful and there is no unrighteousness in him.” John 7:18
Yes. I do declare the decrees of the Lord. I do abide and continue in His word.
As it is written;
“Whoever speaks on his own seeks his own glory but he who seeks the glory of the One who sent him is truthful and there is no unrighteousness in him.” John 7:18
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Re: Being free, truly.
Post #7I believe the greatest gift of freedom is the gift of choice. God gave us the ability to choose and the choices we make we must live with.
you are free to choose
you are free to choose
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Post #8Being truly free in this instance is a spiritual freedom. Freedom from sin.thomasdixon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:37 pm I believe the greatest gift of freedom is the gift of choice. God gave us the ability to choose and the choices we make we must live with.
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Post #9Here I will correct this for you to make you right.Bobcat wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:38 pmBeing truly free in this instance is a spiritual freedom. Freedom from sin.thomasdixon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:37 pm I believe the greatest gift of freedom is the gift of choice. God gave us the ability to choose and the choices we make we must live with.
you are free to choose
Being truly free in any instance is, in the spiritual and physical
existence of one being free from the curse of sin and death.
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Post #10You use the words ‘serve’ and ‘servant’ a total of four times in that post. Plus we have a god’s ‘decrees’ (official orders carrying the force of law) which suggests that this particular freedom comes with some limitations.Bobcat wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:46 amAs it is written;
“I shall declare the decrees of the Lord; He said to me, you are my son, this day I have begotten you.”
“Israel is my son, my first born, let my son go so he can serve me.”
Notice the two verses in which a God declares a son. In each verse the son serves God.
In the first he is declaring Gods decrees, His word. Same as in the OP.
So it is those who serve God and declare His Word who are the son and Israel, His servant.
I submit that a servant can never be truly free - by definition. If you are equating ‘son’ with ‘servant’, then any ‘son’ is not truly free.