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How many children does the IDF need to murder to win the war?

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10, 20, 30.,.,, how many-?
I Googled “Israelis killing children”
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Jun 1, 2017 - Israel has killed more than 3,000 children since 28 September 2000 when the Second Intifada began until the end of April 2017, a new report ...
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia

These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016 | The ...
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/.. ... srael-2016

Jan 27, 2017 - Thirty-five Palestinian children were killed by Israeli soldiers, police and armed civilians during the year, all but four of the deadly incidents ...
Invisible killings: Israel's daily toll of Palestinian children | The ...

https://electronicintifada.net/content/ ... ldren/4263

Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months | News | Al Jazeera
www.aljazeera.com/.../israel-killed-25- ... 1414083314...

May 14, 2016 - Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was ...
One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years ...

One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years: statistics...
“The International Day for the Protection of Children is on June 1,” said a spokesman, “but Palestinian children are still subject to attacks by the Israelis and ...

Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000 – Middle ...
Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000...

Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict refers to the impact of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict .... Though Israeli children were killed in the conflict during the decades prior, the first acts of
12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service

IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and dead while buying candy with her friends.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old school children were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.

Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Google "IDF shooting children"
Nov 23, 2004 - Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing.
https://tinyurl.com/ybk8lvmq

Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months
Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was the highest in seven years, according to the UNICEF.
https://tinyurl.com/y92tvluh

2016 'deadliest year' for West Bank children in decade
Israeli forces killed 32 Palestinian children in the West Bank in 2016, the highest number in 10 years.

The organisation's chapter in the occupied Palestinian territories recorded the killings of 32 Palestinian children (under 18), making 2016 "the deadliest year of the past decade" for them, the group said in a recent report.
https://tinyurl.com/y85ctr7v

12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html
Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service
IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html
UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP
An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire. IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487788.html
United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA)
10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary
Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank
12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room. (this was an assassination of specific children by the IDF)
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html
Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/
Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml
An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk
Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die
The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm
Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.
She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,
'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.
She was still in my arms and she died."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,36 ... 51,00.html
This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/ ... 55,00.html
Baby is born then dies
Birth and death at the checkpoint
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.html
Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy
Siege off Nablus
15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bulet hit Amjad in the back. He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals ... _siege.htm
Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml
15 year old boy & Amer Kathym & Rouhi Hazem Shouman all shot in the back by a sniper.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals ... _siege.htm
An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk
IDF shoots 13-year-old girl in the back with 20 bullets and then the IDF commander goes over to the girl and shoots her again to make sure she was dead
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/485274.html

“I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport." http://www.bintjbeil.com/articles/en/011001_hedges.html

IDF murdering more children
https://tinyurl.com/y2naena6
IDF murdering even more children
https://tinyurl.com/yyrddf3g

I ask again, how many children have to be murdered to win this hideouts war--??????

ten (10),twenty (20).,.,.,,,.,.,how many more-? 8-)

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Israelis are verry good at one thing~~~MURDERING CHILDREN
Israel-Gaza violence: The children who have died in the conflict
[img]Of the 219 people who have been killed in Gaza, at least 63 are children, according to its health ministry. Of the 10 people killed in Israel, two children are among the dead, the country's medical service says.
When an Israeli strike hit al-Wihda street in central Gaza City early on Sunday, at least 13 members of the extended al-Kawalek family are believed to have been killed, buried in the rubble of their own home.
Many of the victims were children, with one said to be as young as six months.
"We saw nothing but smoke," one of the surviving members of the family, Sanaa al-Kawalek, told Felesteen Online. "I couldn't see my son next to me and I was hugging him, but I could see nothing."

Israel-Gaza violence: The children who have died in the conflict - BBC News
https://tinyurl.com/s39ut7wd
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thomasdixon wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:21 pmI ask again, how many children have to be murdered to win this hideouts war--??????

ten (10),twenty (20).,.,.,,,.,.,how many more-? 8-)
Your real question isn't how many to win, but how many is justified to win.

You're not going to like my answer. Infinite, if the Israelis are on the side of good. Zero, if they aren't.

My answer is that it matters what you're fighting for. It's the only thing that matters. And if you're fighting for good, then yes, you pick up a child and use it as a hostage or a shield or even strap a bomb to a baby and blow it up to kill enemy soldiers (one of the sickening things that happened in Vietnam).

My very very unpopular answer is that the ends do justify the means. I think it's an answer that normal moral sentiments can be reduced to. Think about this:

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Now you think, wow, that's horrid. Most people think that. But would you do this to Hitler supporters? Or if your big bad isn't Hitler, the supporters of whoever that is? I think you would. I think anyone would, to avoid the world sinking into unfathomable darkness and to avoid the absolute suffering of untold multitudes. I think, most people think something along the lines of, if the evil is bad enough, then yes. I think that can be reduced to, if it's really evil you're fighting, then yes. The distinction is policy you don't like versus actual suffering.

My big bad is the people who make pointless wars. Would I kill off a few stubborn old people if it prevented Vietnam or Afghanistan? Am I supposed to say no to that? Net loss to life. There's that.

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Prurple Knight responds by saying ~~~ “Your real question isn't how many to win, but how many is justified to win.”

You are saying murdering children is justified to win.

Win what, God’s rath or forever be exiled to zion land where up is down, left is right & murder is the name of the game.
Let me warn you, the Ten Commandments was given to Moses carved in stone.

In the 6th commandment murdering children is FORBIDDEN. If you zions’ think you are above God’s authority you are gravely mistaken.

New King James Version
You shall be fuel for the fire; Your blood shall be in the midst of the land. You shall not be remembered, For I the LORD have spoken.’ ”

Prurple Knight, I pray for your salvation
May you and yours live long and prosper
But I do not have a say in this, God does & I have a pretty good idea what He thinks about your murdering lust.
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thomasdixon wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:12 pm But I do not have a say in this, God does & I have a pretty good idea what He thinks about your murdering lust.
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thomasdixon wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:12 pmIn the 6th commandment murdering children is FORBIDDEN. If you zions’ think you are above God’s authority you are gravely mistaken.
There's a line in the Talmud about who is human and who is not human that resolves any apparent contradiction in murdering children being forbidden. Plus, God has ordered the killing of children before, the children of the Amalekites.

Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
Samuel 15:3
thomasdixon wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:12 pmYou are saying murdering children is justified to win.
Yes, if you fight for good. I've refrained from saying whether I think Israel actually is fighting for good or not, because, frankly, I don't know. One of the perks of being an atheist is that I don't have any golden book I can read from to tell me who is evil or good and why.

I actually think popular opinion supports me in my assertion that if you're fighting for good, you can do anything, and it's still good.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... -catharsis

When you're killing the evil, you don't have to hold back on methods. Kill them however. Torture them. It doesn't matter. Therefore, methods don't matter if you fight for good. Evil people don't have human rights.

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Israelis believe they are a special people chosen by God Himself.
(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
(Deu 7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

God chose the Jews to preach His teachings. To be an example for others to follow.
God gave them specific instructions---
The term “stranger” is referenced 128 time in the KJV of the Bible.
(Deu 24:20 KJV) When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.
(Deu 24:21 KJV) When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow
(Exo 22:21 KJV) Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
(Exo 23:9 KJV) Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
(Lev 19:34 KJV)  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Modern day Israelis ignore the above, believing they are above His rule.


The Israeli IDF sniper teams have murdered hundreds of Palestinian children
https://tinyurl.com/32yekhjk
Israelis destroy Palestinian homes and murder whoever is inside
https://tinyurl.com/47s4nm28
Israelis destroy Palestinian fishing boats cutting off needed food for its people
https://tinyurl.com/4a8zj84c
Israelis were the “first” to engage in terrorists’ acts
November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
The Assassination of Lord Moyne on JSTOR
July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.
King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia
October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.
1946 British Embassy bombing - Wikipedia
September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)
Terrorismo: per non dimenticare (narkive.com)
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
Who were the first "terrorist" coining the term? [Archive] - BibleWorks User Forums
December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.
Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia
December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.
Barrel bombs in Palestine and Israel - Wikipedia
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
List of Irgun operations - Wikipedia
June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
Letter‐Bombs Mailed to Truman in 1947 - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Last but not least, Israelis routinely spit on Christians in Jerusalem and elsewhere
https://tinyurl.com/28reztdz

As an American I have to ask, why does the USA government support these terrorists?????
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Purple Knight wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:40 pm God has ordered the killing of children before, the children of the Amalekites.
The God I know would never order the killing of anyone, period. I call this a twisted misinterpretation of scripture

Wait, I might be mistaken. In the book of Passover all the newborn were killed, all except the Jews. Personally I do not believe this mass murder was not an act of God but a terrorist murder spree by the Israelis
Purple Knight wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:40 pmWhen you're killing the evil, you don't have to hold back on methods. Kill them however. Torture them. It doesn't matter. Therefore, methods don't matter if you fight for good. Evil people don't have human rights.
You actually support the killing of children.
You "Purple Knight" disgust me, I loath who/what you represent
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thomasdixon wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:31 pm
Purple Knight wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:40 pm God has ordered the killing of children before, the children of the Amalekites.
The God I know would never order the killing of anyone, period. I call this a twisted misinterpretation of scripture
I don't see how. God literally tells them, kill every man, woman, and child. This is canonical.
thomasdixon wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:31 pmIn the book of Passover all the newborn were killed, all except the Jews. Personally I do not believe this mass murder was not an act of God but a terrorist murder spree by the Israelis
God wanted it. The Egyptians enslaved the Jews, so any methods were justified, because enslaving the Jews was against the will of God (in other words, evil).
thomasdixon wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:31 pmYou actually support the killing of children.
I do, when it's for good.
thomasdixon wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:31 pmYou "Purple Knight" disgust me, I loath who/what you represent
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Then you loathe nothing because I represent nothing. I don't claim to know the truth. I extrapolate it from people who do. I'm not reading from any golden plate I've got shoved up my bum or stuffed in my couch cushions and won't let you see because I admit I don't have one. (I... I have a bum. And a couch. And it's got cushions on it. The couch, not the bum. I don't have a golden plate, is what I mean.)

I look to see how people evaluate right and wrong and I try to deduce what is on the golden plate.

One of the things on it, as your outrage supports, is that we're supposed to act as if methods in themselves can be wrong, for any cause, but the truth is that methods don't matter if it's a good cause.

George Washington was a terrorist, and there was a guy who tried to kill Hitler by blowing up a meeting that had more people than just Hitler in it.. now regarded as a hero.
thomasdixon wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:19 pmAs an American I have to ask, why does the USA government support these terrorists?????
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You know the answer to that.

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