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How many children does the IDF need to murder to win the war?

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10, 20, 30.,.,, how many-?
I Googled “Israelis killing children”
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Jun 1, 2017 - Israel has killed more than 3,000 children since 28 September 2000 when the Second Intifada began until the end of April 2017, a new report ...
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia

These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016 | The ...
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/.. ... srael-2016

Jan 27, 2017 - Thirty-five Palestinian children were killed by Israeli soldiers, police and armed civilians during the year, all but four of the deadly incidents ...
Invisible killings: Israel's daily toll of Palestinian children | The ...

https://electronicintifada.net/content/ ... ldren/4263

Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months | News | Al Jazeera
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May 14, 2016 - Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was ...
One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years ...

One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years: statistics...
“The International Day for the Protection of Children is on June 1,” said a spokesman, “but Palestinian children are still subject to attacks by the Israelis and ...

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Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000...

Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict refers to the impact of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict .... Though Israeli children were killed in the conflict during the decades prior, the first acts of
12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service

IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and dead while buying candy with her friends.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old school children were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.

Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Google "IDF shooting children"
Nov 23, 2004 - Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing.
https://tinyurl.com/ybk8lvmq

Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months
Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was the highest in seven years, according to the UNICEF.
https://tinyurl.com/y92tvluh

2016 'deadliest year' for West Bank children in decade
Israeli forces killed 32 Palestinian children in the West Bank in 2016, the highest number in 10 years.

The organisation's chapter in the occupied Palestinian territories recorded the killings of 32 Palestinian children (under 18), making 2016 "the deadliest year of the past decade" for them, the group said in a recent report.
https://tinyurl.com/y85ctr7v

12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html
Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service
IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html
UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP
An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire. IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487788.html
United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA)
10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary
Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank
12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room. (this was an assassination of specific children by the IDF)
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html
Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/
Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml
An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk
Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die
The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm
Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.
She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,
'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.
She was still in my arms and she died."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,36 ... 51,00.html
This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/ ... 55,00.html
Baby is born then dies
Birth and death at the checkpoint
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.html
Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy
Siege off Nablus
15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bulet hit Amjad in the back. He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals ... _siege.htm
Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml
15 year old boy & Amer Kathym & Rouhi Hazem Shouman all shot in the back by a sniper.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals ... _siege.htm
An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk
IDF shoots 13-year-old girl in the back with 20 bullets and then the IDF commander goes over to the girl and shoots her again to make sure she was dead
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/485274.html

“I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport." http://www.bintjbeil.com/articles/en/011001_hedges.html

IDF murdering more children
https://tinyurl.com/y2naena6
IDF murdering even more children
https://tinyurl.com/yyrddf3g

I ask again, how many children have to be murdered to win this hideouts war--??????

ten (10),twenty (20).,.,.,,,.,.,how many more-? 8-)

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Purple Knight wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:41 amBut I don't think that matters. I don't think methods matter. Anything and everything is justified if you're fighting for what is right, whereas the most noble and honourable black knight, who fights more fairly than anyone else on the field... is still evil, if what he's fighting for, is evil.
Many Israelis refuse to admit that Palestine ever existed, which is just one lie among thousands upon thousands.

This is the land stolen by the Zionists which will be returned.
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Notice it states "settlements", not towns or villages, not from long lived communities.
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thomasdixon wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:40 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:36 pmAnd the truth is that Israel offered land for peace to no avail.
You are a stranger to me therefore I cannot just take your word for your statement. The short version is, prove it or shut up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_for_peace
Wikipedia wrote: On 19 June 1967, Israel offered "to give up Sinai and the Golan in exchange for peace,"[3] an offer that was rejected in September 1967 by the Arab States by the Khartoum Resolution, which became famous for the "Three No's": "no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with it...
"No , you shut up!"
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:36 pmToo, too many Muslims simply will never accept anyone but their own in what they consider to be Muslim lands.
All land is God's land. You, me and all the rest are just God's guests.
You are a stranger to me therefore I cannot just take your word for your statement. The short version is, prove it or shut up.
BTW: The Israelis were the first to engage in terrorist activities.
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:36 pmPlease present pertinent days for analysis.
Joey's question is in reference to--
BTW: The Israelis were the first to engage in terrorist activities.
JoeyKnothead, here is the answer you seek--
FIRST ACTS OF TERRORISM, COINING THE PHRASE

November 6, 1944.
October 1, 1946.
September 3, 1947.
December ll, 1947
December 19, 1947
December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948.
December 29, 1947.
June 1947.
January 4, 1948.
January 5, 1948.
January 16, 1948.
February 15, 1948.
March 3, 1948.
March 22, 1948.
March 31, 1948.
April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.
May 3, 1948.

Do you see the above as acts of terrorism?
Israel was not established until 14 May 1948. None of those acts then can be attributed to Israelis.

But yeah, terrorism has a long and storied history.

Delete more data due to it occurring prior to Israel's creation.

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thomasdixon wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:06 pmMany Israelis refuse to admit that Palestine ever existed, which is just one lie among thousands upon thousands.
What I see here is both sides refusing to acknowledge that the other is legitimate or has any right to exist. There will be more bloodshed.
JoeyKnothead wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:01 am
thomasdixon wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:40 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:36 pmAnd the truth is that Israel offered land for peace to no avail.
You are a stranger to me therefore I cannot just take your word for your statement. The short version is, prove it or shut up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_for_peace
Wikipedia wrote: On 19 June 1967, Israel offered "to give up Sinai and the Golan in exchange for peace,"[3] an offer that was rejected in September 1967 by the Arab States by the Khartoum Resolution, which became famous for the "Three No's": "no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with it...
"No , you shut up!"
That article also states that the interpretation of Palestine simply being unwilling to make peace is hotly contested, and states the competing interpretation that they thought Israel needed to unilaterally withdraw from territories it occupied, not offer those territories back in a treaty in exchange for anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_for_peace
This interpretation is widely contested because it implies that Israeli withdrawal is linked to its neighbours' willingness to formally make peace. Competing interpretations of the resolution regard Israel as being obligated to withdraw unilaterally from all territories captured in 1967.

Now I admit I don't think the Palestinians would behave honourably if Israel actually did that (See my first comment to Dix in this post), but you can't really overlook the fact that the Palestinians were there first, the Jews came there, and after a while the Palestinians lost the bulk of their land.

Note though that this is probably one of the times I'm trying too hard to see both sides. I've been told I oughtn't do this when it's an obvious case of good vs evil, but it's difficult for me to assess context and properly judge when I ought and when I ought not.

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Purple Knight wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:01 pm What I see here is both sides refusing to acknowledge that the other is legitimate or has any right to exist. There will be more bloodshed.
I propose some of that blood wouldn't have to spill if folks'd quit trying to wipe the Jews off the planet.
That article also states that the interpretation of Palestine simply being unwilling to make peace is hotly contested, and states the competing interpretation that they thought Israel needed to unilaterally withdraw from territories it occupied, not offer those territories back in a treaty in exchange for anything.
It's a well understood military tactic that if you take the land your enemies use for the attacking you, they ain't got em that land from which to launch attacks on you no more.
Now I admit I don't think the Palestinians would behave honourably if Israel actually did that (See my first comment to Dix in this post), but you can't really overlook the fact that the Palestinians were there first, the Jews came there, and after a while the Palestinians lost the bulk of their land.
That bunch's been there since before Jesus sang "The Wheels on the Bus".

That said, I refer back to my previous argument for a Jewish homeland based on their historical oppression outside those lands, their historical ties to it, and as an eternal reminder of the horrors they (and others) suffered during the holocaust.
Note though that this is probably one of the times I'm trying too hard to see both sides. I've been told I oughtn't do this when it's an obvious case of good vs evil, but it's difficult for me to assess context and properly judge when I ought and when I ought not.
This atheist has every confidence that if I went to Israel and got me a patch of land, and didn't set to lobbing rockets into the rest of Israel, the biggest fuss I'd get from em is turn down my stereo when folks're trying to sleep.

Ya just can't go rocket lobbing onto someone's property, then cuss em cause they never invite ya to their barbecues.
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Purple Knight wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:01 pmWhat I see here is both sides refusing to acknowledge that the other is legitimate or has any right to exist. There will be more bloodshed.

(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.
(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
The above prophesy was fulfilled in 1947ad
(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.
Ezekiel 21:32
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.
Purple Knight wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:01 pm"No , you shut up!"
Last but not least, read this and justify it--
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:33 am That said, I refer back to my previous argument for a Jewish homeland based on their historical oppression outside those lands, their historical ties to it, and as an eternal reminder of the horrors they (and others) suffered during the holocaust.

The truth will set you free

(Gen 41:39 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as God hath showed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art:
(Gen 41:40 KJV) Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou.
(Gen 41:42 KJV) And Pharaoh took off his ring from his hand, and put it upon Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck;
(Gen 41:44 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I am Pharaoh, and without thee shall no man lift up his hand or foot in all the land of Egypt.
Gen 41:46 KJV) And Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh King of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt.

Joseph who is now the de facto ruler over all of Egypt moves the Jews to Egypt and gives them power over all the agriculture lands. Clearly they were not slaves as some would have believed.

(Gen 42:25 KJV) Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn, and to restore every man's money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way:
(Gen 45:20 KJV) Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is yours.

See above, they abandon the land of Canaan and move to Egypt

(Gen 45:21 KJV) And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.
(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.
(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.
(Gen 47:5 KJV) And Pharaoh spake unto Joseph, saying, Thy father [ISRAEL] and thy brethren are come unto thee:
(Gen 47:6 KJV) The land of Egypt is before thee; in the best of the land make thy father and brethren to dwell; in the land of Goshen let them dwell: and if thou knowest any men of activity among them, then make them rulers over my cattle.
(Gen 47:11 KJV) And Joseph placed his father [ISRAEL] and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded.

The Israelis enjoyed the fruits of Egypt until the day Moses murders an Egyptian in the street. The Pharaoh sought to punish Moses for this murder; but Moses and his followers flee, marking the beginning of Exodus.
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thomasdixon wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:05 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:33 am That said, I refer back to my previous argument for a Jewish homeland based on their historical oppression outside those lands, their historical ties to it, and as an eternal reminder of the horrors they (and others) suffered during the holocaust.
I do not believe you know what you are talking about, no offence intended or implied.
Says the guy who denies Jewish historical ties to THE BIRTH PLACE OF THE JEWS.
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:20 pmSays the guy who denies Jewish historical ties to THE BIRTH PLACE OF THE JEWS.
Is the land of “Israel” their true ancient homeland?
Promised Land
“Moses went up Mount Nebo to the top of Pisgah, looked over the promised land of Israel spread out before him, and died, at the age of one hundred and twenty, according to Talmudic legend on 7 Adar, his 120th birthday exactly.
Moab is the historical name for a mountainous strip of land in modern-day Jordan running along the eastern shore of the Dead Sea. In ancient times, it was home to the kingdom of the Moabites, a people often in conflict with their Israelite neighbors to the west.

The Moabites were a historical people, whose existence is attested to by numerous archeological findings, most notably the Mesha Stele, which describes the Moabite victory over an unnamed son of King Omri of Israel. Their capital was Dibon, located next to the modern Jordanian town of Dhiban.”
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Moab
From there they moved to Egypt
(Gen 42:25 KJV) Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn, and to restore every man's money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way:
(Gen 45:20 KJV) Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is yours.
(Gen 45:21 KJV) And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.
(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.
(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

Based on the above the “Promised Land” is not the land the Jews are occupying today. In biblical verse terms the Jews were nomads who were wonderers living off of the land grazing their sheep on the open plains.
Then the question that needs to be asked---
Why does the Israeli’s call the land they live on today (Israel) their ancestral land?
Because they are a lost people who do not realize that the USA is their homeland along with everyone else as brothers and sisters
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thomasdixon wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:05 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:33 am That said, I refer back to my previous argument for a Jewish homeland based on their historical oppression outside those lands, their historical ties to it, and as an eternal reminder of the horrors they (and others) suffered during the holocaust.
The truth will set you free
So you say, without presenting one single, solitary shred of evidence we might use to confirm you speak truth.
(Gen 41:39 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as God hath showed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art:
(Gen 41:40 KJV) Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou.
(Gen 41:42 KJV) And Pharaoh took off his ring from his hand, and put it upon Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck;
(Gen 41:44 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I am Pharaoh, and without thee shall no man lift up his hand or foot in all the land of Egypt.
Gen 41:46 KJV) And Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh King of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt.

Joseph who is now the de facto ruler over all of Egypt moves the Jews to Egypt and gives them power over all the agriculture lands. Clearly they were not slaves as some would have believed.

(Gen 42:25 KJV) Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn, and to restore every man's money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way:
(Gen 45:20 KJV) Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is yours.

See above, they abandon the land of Canaan and move to Egypt

(Gen 45:21 KJV) And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.
(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.
(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.
(Gen 47:5 KJV) And Pharaoh spake unto Joseph, saying, Thy father [ISRAEL] and thy brethren are come unto thee:
(Gen 47:6 KJV) The land of Egypt is before thee; in the best of the land make thy father and brethren to dwell; in the land of Goshen let them dwell: and if thou knowest any men of activity among them, then make them rulers over my cattle.
(Gen 47:11 KJV) And Joseph placed his father [ISRAEL] and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded.

The Israelis enjoyed the fruits of Egypt until the day Moses murders an Egyptian in the street. The Pharaoh sought to punish Moses for this murder; but Moses and his followers flee, marking the beginning of Exodus.
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Nothing you present here can be confirmed as truthful.

It's a downright insult to have you declare, "The truth will set you free", only to present unproven assertion after unproven assertion.

But yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about. A claim you present, I contend, in the absence of presenting any confirmable fact, that we might be assured you ain't the one suffering the affliction yourself.


You're not considering the other reasons for my support, but...

If, if, the Jews didn't consider so much of that area sacred, you might have a point.

Now, beyond your dogged determination to push the Jews out to sea, no rational human being can think the Jews would be safer anywhere but in lands they currently control, and to which, your protestations aside, they have links by way of cultural and religious heritage.

The Jews had already been seeking a, shall we say 'wholesale' return to these lands prior to WW2, so it can be reasonably assumed they fancy the lands. But what did they find on their return? Muslims who disrespected their religion, their holy sites, and all such as that.

In WW2, for whatever reason, tens of thousands of Arabs / Muslims fought with the Nazis. Ya know, the ones shipping Jews off to ovens in their millions. The Jews were slaughtered for no other reason than being all Jewy.

In the millions they died, while the Nazis teamed with Arabs and Muslims. And upon declaring their Nation, they offered displaced Arabs / Muslims full right of return, and full acceptance in what can also be considered Muslim holy lands.

For what? A refused offer and more war. More death and destruction. Cause ya know, all Jewy.

The Muslims have fought the Jews in Israel by blowing up civilians, hiding weaponry in ambulances, lobbing rockets into civilian areas. They do this as a strategy, not an accident.

The history of the Jews has been a history of scapegoatism, oppression, and all manner of humanity gone evil. For being Jewish.

And what do they ask in return? Peace. But that ain't nothing they'll ever find until folks recognize their right to exist. In the lands they consider holy. In their, if we wanna say it, new motherland.

Arabs / Muslims would be perfectly welcome among the Jews, if only they'd quit exploding em.

So to heck with unproven, unprovable biblical claims.

To heck with claiming folks don't know they're talking about - irony be damned.

The Jews died in the millions just to keep being Jews.

I don't give the first tinkers dang about the religious aspect, not near as much as I see an entire group of people - millions of em - having to constantly battle just to maintain their identity. Just to live.

Long live Israel!

Long live the Jews!
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Invention is using things discovered.

Create that path and engineer a metamorphosis.

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