Difflugia wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:35 pm
Realworldjack wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:42 pmHowever, I am attempting to understand how one who takes such a stance would be under the impression, they would have any sort of advantage over the Christian who makes no certain claims they cannot demonstrate to be fact?
The main advantage for the atheist would be a shorter list of magical things that they believe in. Whether that helps in an argument or not, I'm not sure, but it certainly can't hurt.
I can't
in principle say that there are no gods, but I believe it with the same level of certainty that I believe there are neither leprechauns nor extraterrestrial teapots in solar orbit. There's little reason beyond "you can't prove otherwise" to believe any of those things. In fact, there's objectively
more evidence for either of the latter propositions than for a god's existence in that sincere people claim to have seen leprechauns and we actually know that teapots exist.
Whether it helps in an argument or not is perhaps an open question, but if one can eliminate possibilities that are mere "you can't prove its," then in a practical sense, solving problems becomes much easier. A mechanic that doesn't waste time ruling out gremlins, evil wizards, and Jesus for every single car problem, for example, will be much more efficient at their job.
The main advantage for the atheist would be a shorter list of magical things that they believe in.
Are you insisting the Christian claims involve, "magic"? Or, would this simply be a "figure of speech"? In other words, are you suggesting there is something to the Christian claims, and it involves magic? Or, would it be better to say you believe there to be nothing to the claims, other than myth, legend, etc.?
I can't in principle say that there are no gods
Why is this? Is it because you do not know (Agnostic)? Or, is it, you cannot demonstrate, (burden of proof)?
but I believe it with the same level of certainty that I believe there are neither leprechauns nor extraterrestrial teapots in solar orbit.
Right! And there are many Christian who would say, "I believe the Christian claims, with the same level of certainty that I believe there are neither leprechauns nor extraterrestrial teapots in solar orbit". It means nothing when they say it?????????? SOOOOOOO????? What?
There's little reason beyond "you can't prove otherwise" to believe any of those things.
OPINION noted! But not a very good opinion, in my opinion. Can you see the point? All you are doing is to share an opinion. You are not demonstrating anything at all, other than your opinion. With this being the case, it would seem you, and I, are in the same boat. You have your opinion, while I have my opinion. I am fine with this being the case. What say you?