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Most, if not all, religions include a promise of eternal life. Of course, in most cases the promise includes a requirement to follow what that specific religion or branch of said religion requires to attain eternal life.
Can the promise of eternal life be supported with verifiable evidence?
If not, why do so many accept the promise of eternal life?
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The promise of eternal life.
Post #1To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
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Re: The promise of eternal life.
Post #31My conclusion is that there is no verifiable evidence of life after death.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:04 amYou conclusion is there is no afterlife or there's nothing showing there's an afterlife? Or both? Or neither?Tcg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:02 amI asked the question to see if my conclusion is wrong. So far, it hasn't been shown to be.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:57 am
If you're not searching, why did you ask "Can the promise of eternal life be supported with verifiable evidence?" and end it with a ?
Are you trying to show it's not possible?
How would you know it was him if he came back? This isn't what the thread's about, simply curious.
My grandfather was an inventor and shortly before he died, he revealed to me some of the inventions he was working on. No one else would know what they were. He would.
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Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
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Re: The promise of eternal life.
Post #321213 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:33 amDeath is for the unrighteous. And because I have understood there will be no coming back from the death, it is eternal death, permanent solution. I believe those people will be utterly destroyed, as said here:brunumb wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:45 amIf eternal life is promised to the righteous, what becomes of the non-righteous? Which leads me to then ask, what is the difference between death and eternal punishment?1213 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:07 am In the case of the Bible, I think it is good to notice that the eternal life is promised as a gift for people that are righteous. So, it is not really a reward that could be earned in some way. Following orders doesn't necessary mean person is righteous.
These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
Matt. 10:28
So who gets the eternal punishment?
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Re: The promise of eternal life.
Post #33How could you be sure it wasn't Bigfoot in a grandfather suit?
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Post #34It'd have to be a suit that made Bigfoot a foot or so shorter.
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- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
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Re: The promise of eternal life.
Post #36But you said that they got death.
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