What's God made of?

[JoeyKnothead]

Late edit to clean quotes...

From Post 182 here:

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God is not made of matter...
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For debate:

What's God made of?

[nobspeople]

But, for you, so many of your religious beliefs can't be shown to be TRUTH(tm).

I believe they can otherwise I would not hold to them. Feel free to disagree.





JW

PLEASE NOTE I make no claims here, I am simply expressing what I believe based on the bible. Please take all sentences to be preceeded by the premise "I believe ..."

Would you be inclined to provide proof here?

[JoeyKnothead]

Late edit to clean quotes...

From Post 182 here:

...
God is not made of matter...
...

For debate:

What's God made of?

You assume we can apply reductionism to everything, like I told you in other threads, assumptions are never far away even for the atheist!

The OP seeks to confirm from what's God made.

There's no requirement for reductionism, if that ain't the way to go.

As I'm telling you in this thread, that's an assumption on your part.

God is made from God, you know, like the universe exists because the universe exists and something can pop into existence from nothing.

As those are claims I've not made, I fail to see how they offer some means to confirm from what is God made.

Unless you're saying God's made from pent up rage.

[JoeyKnothead]

There is no rule that says anyone has to prove anything. If someone insists you must prove something, challenge them where is it a requirement on the forum that something needs to be proved.

There's also no rule against someone just up and proving something, whether or not asked to do so, within any section of this site.

Let me rephrase to avoid causing any offense: Thank you so such for sharing that point, yes I am aware of that, but REMINDERS are always valuable and I will keep your point in mind.

Is there anything else you would like to add? If not, have a most excellent day,

Just that we see so many theists allude to TRUTH(tm), but in the light of debate, they can only fall back to their unconformable beliefs.

[JehovahsWitness]

But, for you, so many of your religious beliefs can't be shown to be TRUTH(tm).

I believe they can otherwise I would not hold to them. Feel free to disagree.





JW

PLEASE NOTE I make no claims here, I am simply expressing what I believe based on the bible. Please take all sentences to be preceeded by the premise "I believe ..."

Would you be inclined to provide proof here?

You would like me to present argumentation (proof*) of my beliefs ? What specifically would you like me to present argumentation about?

*PROOF
evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.

JW

[nobspeople]

But, for you, so many of your religious beliefs can't be shown to be TRUTH(tm).

I believe they can otherwise I would not hold to them. Feel free to disagree.
JW

PLEASE NOTE I make no claims here, I am simply expressing what I believe based on the bible. Please take all sentences to be preceeded by the premise "I believe ..."

Would you be inclined to provide proof here?

You would like me to present argumentation (proof*) of my beliefs ? What specifically would you like me to present argumentation about?

*PROOF
evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.

JW

When said (paraphrased) 'your religious beliefs can't be shown to be true', you said "I believe they can otherwise I would not hold to them."
I simply asked you to provide the proof of which you speak, as you said it's possible to do so.
What proof you wish to provide is, of course, up to you.

[JehovahsWitness]

When said (paraphrased) 'your religious beliefs can't be shown to be true', you said "I believe they can otherwise I would not hold to them."
I simply asked you to provide the proof of which you speak, as you said it's possible to do so.
What proof you wish to provide is, of course, up to you.

I have hundreds of religious beliefs, which ones would you like proof (proof as in argumentation) for, and who or what provides the standards by which we can establish whether those beliefs are true or not. For me, religious truth are established by measiring it against the bible. If you agree and would like biblical argumentation (proof) about something I believe, feel free to ask.

I will certainly give your request the consideration it deserves.





JW



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[Goat]

Late edit to clean quotes...

From Post 182 here:

...
God is not made of matter...
...

For debate:

What's God made of?

You assume we can apply reductionism to everything, like I told you in other threads, assumptions are never far away even for the atheist!

The OP seeks to confirm from what's God made.

There's no requirement for reductionism, if that ain't the way to go.

As I'm telling you in this thread, that's an assumption on your part.

God is made from God, you know, like the universe exists because the universe exists and something can pop into existence from nothing.

The statement 'God is made from God' is redundant, and not meaningful in any way.

[nobspeople]

When said (paraphrased) 'your religious beliefs can't be shown to be true', you said "I believe they can otherwise I would not hold to them."
I simply asked you to provide the proof of which you speak, as you said it's possible to do so.
What proof you wish to provide is, of course, up to you.

I have hundreds of religious beliefs, which ones would you like proof (proof as in argumentation) for, and who or what provides the standards by which we can establish whether those beliefs are true or not. For me, religious truth are established by measiring it against the bible. If you agree and would like biblical argumentation (proof) about something I believe, feel free to ask.

I will certainly give your request the consideration it deserves.





JW



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Ugh
Last chance here with me
Pick one and prove it to be true

[JehovahsWitness]

When said (paraphrased) 'your religious beliefs can't be shown to be true', you said "I believe they can otherwise I would not hold to them."
I simply asked you to provide the proof of which you speak, as you said it's possible to do so.
What proof you wish to provide is, of course, up to you.

I have hundreds of religious beliefs, which ones would you like proof (proof as in argumentation) for, and who or what provides the standards by which we can establish whether those beliefs are true or not. For me, religious truth are established by measiring it against the bible. If you agree and would like biblical argumentation (proof) about something I believe, feel free to ask.

I will certainly give your request the consideration it deserves.





JW



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Ugh
Last chance here with me
Pick one and prove it to be true

I believe Genesis is the first book currently listed the Torah and accept that book as part of the bible canon.

Evidence

Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/biblic ... d-versions

There are millions of bibles available and Genesis is sytematically listed as the first of the books in the Torah.




JW

[Sherlock Holmes]

Late edit to clean quotes...

From Post 182 here:

...
God is not made of matter...
...

For debate:

What's God made of?

You assume we can apply reductionism to everything, like I told you in other threads, assumptions are never far away even for the atheist!

The OP seeks to confirm from what's God made.

There's no requirement for reductionism, if that ain't the way to go.

As I'm telling you in this thread, that's an assumption on your part.

You are quite incorrect.

The question "what is X made of" is logically equivalent to "what constituent parts comprise X" and that is most certainly a question which presupposes a reductionist answer.

Reductionism:

Ontological reductionism: a belief that the whole of reality consists of a minimal number of parts.
Methodological reductionism: the scientific attempt to provide an explanation in terms of ever-smaller entities.
Theory reductionism: the suggestion that a newer theory does not replace or absorb an older one, but reduces it to more basic terms. Theory reduction itself is divisible into three parts: translation, derivation, and explanation.[4]