From Post 182 here:
For debate:EarthSciemceGuy wrote: ...
God is not made of matter...
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What's God made of?
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For debate:EarthSciemceGuy wrote: ...
God is not made of matter...
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I can only conclude post comments comply with site rules on staying on topic to the OP. To conclude otherwise is to accuse em of violating those rules.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:33 pmAre you suggesting I made any claim of truth regarding the OP?JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:22 pm This is getting funnier and funnier with each new attempt at what TRUTH(tm) can be put to the OP.
What, specifically, about the universe shows us a god exists?Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:21 pmThey're correct.The presence of the universe, my own existence within that universe.JK wrote: What evidence do you find most confirmatory for this conclusion?
Please consult site rules. As I've not made claims in this regard, I'm under no obligation to support em.What is empty space made from? it too exists.No, you misunderstood, I was asking you what is space made from to show others here that you don't know, and you don't know otherwise I'm sure you'd have answered rather than evaded.JK wrote: So God's empty space?
As above, please provide some means to confirm these links.I told you, God is made from God, composed from God, why won't you listen to common sense?The presence of the universe, my own existence within that universe.JK wrote: And tautologies are made from tautologies.
What confirmatory evidence can you provide for your claim?
I make no claims regarding the makeup of love.What is anything made of?Do you know what love is made of?JK wrote: Depends on what anything, and to what level of detail we can provide.
I like to build stuff. Metal, wood, nails or screws, glue, and cussing're the most common materials, but not necessarily in that order.
Snip request for composition of stuff I ain't claimed to exist.
So we disregard reduction and seek some other means of sorting out how this alledged sentient, acting entity might've come to be.What I'm trying to teach you here is that the question "What is God made of" is one of a class of questions, it isn't hard to answer because it's asking about God, it's hard to answer because the subject cannot be decomposed, like "love" we cannot apply reduction to the subject of the question.
The observer's expected to draw their own conclusions. But for me, I ain't yet seen evidence sufficient to draw the conclusions you seem to have drawn, namely that whole 'universe, so God' angle.Basically asking the question and seeing no answer that satisfies you is not some kind of proof that God does not exist or cannot exist,
I agree you're being as open and honest as ya can, no shenanigans nor nothing. I'd tell it in court.I've spent enough time now genuinely trying to help you, if this isn't valued or you just want a back-n-forth then I'm done.
JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:53 pmI can only conclude post comments comply with site rules on staying on topic to the OP. To conclude otherwise is to accuse em of violating those rules.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:33 pmAre you suggesting I made any claim of truth regarding the OP?JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:22 pm This is getting funnier and funnier with each new attempt at what TRUTH(tm) can be put to the OP.
And you and yours.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:35 pm Thats fine then; if you dont have anything else you would like to ask me, I'll wish you a most excellent weekend.
So ya know, though it may seem otherwise, I ain't ever hating on ya, as you're typically pleasant and quite intelligent. You hone my skills, and make me think about real or potential errors in my own thinking.Carry on,
Love is not an entity. Does love exist in the absence of an intelligent mind? Do intelligent minds exist in the absence of a suitable substrate capable of formulating ideas and feelings and so on? Can a God exist in the absence of those things?
Is that your attempt at an answer to "What's love made of"? because if you don't just say that.
Its' presence, my presence.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:17 pmWhat, specifically, about the universe shows us a god exists?Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:21 pmThey're correct.The presence of the universe, my own existence within that universe.JK wrote: What evidence do you find most confirmatory for this conclusion?
What, specifically, about your existence shows us there's a god?
I have no idea.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:17 pm Ain't it a bit prideful to think, "Well here's ol fancy me, there must be a god!"?
What's empty space made from I asked, do you know or don't you?JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:17 pmWhat is empty space made from? it too exists.JK wrote: So God's empty space?
Good ole intelligent design. That horse's been beat dead so many times, yet some Christians still try to resurrect it.Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:44 pmIts' presence, my presence.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:17 pm What, specifically, about the universe shows us a god exists?
What, specifically, about your existence shows us there's a god?
If you find a coin in the desert then you can infer that something must have lead to the coin being there, inferring God when we find the universe, the vast, huge, universe is entirely rational and reasonable.
I'm not the one claiming space is empty, so I'm under no obligation to try to support your claim.What is empty space made from? it too exists.What's empty space made from I asked, do you know or don't you?JK wrote: So God's empty space?
I'm content to leave the observer to decide who's doing the honest answering.Just give honest answers to my questions, or is that asking too much from you?
Even Dawkins advocates intelligent design, I guess you never knew that did you?JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:51 pmGood ole intelligent design. That horse's been beat dead so many times, yet some Christians still try to resurrect it.Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:44 pmIts' presence, my presence.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:17 pm What, specifically, about the universe shows us a god exists?
What, specifically, about your existence shows us there's a god?
If you find a coin in the desert then you can infer that something must have lead to the coin being there, inferring God when we find the universe, the vast, huge, universe is entirely rational and reasonable.
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I'm not the one claiming space is empty, so I'm under no obligation to try to support your claim.What is empty space made from? it too exists.What's empty space made from I asked, do you know or don't you?JK wrote: So God's empty space?
I'm content to leave the observer to decide who's doing the honest answering.Just give honest answers to my questions, or is that asking too much from you?