Debate question: Are modern ethical values (right to life and liberty, equality under the law, bodily autonomy, fairness, helping those less fortunate) a product of Christianity, or do they have a secular basis?historia wrote: ..... That much I understood. And I appreciate the fact that you don't care that you are judging Christianity according to values that you ultimately inherited from Christianity itself. Feelings don't need to be rational. ....
Are modern values Christian in origin?
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Are modern values Christian in origin?
Post #1On another thread, historia wrote:
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Re: Are modern values Christian in origin?
Post #31They're based on claims regarding a god that can't be shown to exist, and a Jesus that can't be either.thomasdixon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:13 pm Our values are not based on Christianity, but biblical scripture which was written before the birth of Jesus Christ.
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Post #32Gotta say, when it comes to god setting up rules of behavior a .400 batting average ain't nothin' to brag about. 60% of his demands are pretty much ignored by those outside the fold----those snubbing their noses comprising close to 70% of the world's population.thomasdixon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:13 pmOur values are not based on Christianity, but biblical scripture which was written before the birth of Jesus Christ.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:25 amA great example of how so many "Christian values" are "got around to" on the backs of folks who have to shame and cajole, fight and suffer to get so many Christians to accept that others have value even if we don't like how they carry on.
Whether you realize it or not, four (4) of the ten (10) commandments have been put into public “law” in every country across this planet, bar none; religious or not.
Ten Commandments
1. Thou shalt not kill.
2. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
3. Thou shalt not steal.
4. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
5. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.
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Post #33Thank God you have a place to spew this stuff which is much better than screaming this on a street corner.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:18 pmThey're based on claims regarding a god that can't be shown to exist, and a Jesus that can't be either.
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Post #34I'm not allowed off my property without supervision, the streets, corners'n all, ate safe.thomasdixon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:34 pmThank God you have a place to spew this stuff which is much better than screaming this on a street corner.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:18 pmThey're based on claims regarding a god that can't be shown to exist, and a Jesus that can't be either.
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Now if we could make em safe from overzealous, violence prone theists (and others).
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Post #35By what I see, there is just allegations without any evidence.thomasdixon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:41 pmIntelligence Report: Russia Tried To Help Trump In 2020 Election
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Re: Are modern values Christian in origin?
Post #36Christian values can be intertwined with other values across the cultures. But, there were/are cultures that aren't chrisitan that have some of these 'christian values'. It's worth nothing that not all christians have these values outside the people within their belief system.Haven wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:24 pm On another thread, historia wrote:
Debate question: Are modern ethical values (right to life and liberty, equality under the law, bodily autonomy, fairness, helping those less fortunate) a product of Christianity, or do they have a secular basis?historia wrote: ..... That much I understood. And I appreciate the fact that you don't care that you are judging Christianity according to values that you ultimately inherited from Christianity itself. Feelings don't need to be rational. ....
Have a great, potentially godless, day!