Not all those who follow what they believe to be the teachings of Jesus accept the reported words of Jesus in the Bible.

[nobspeople]

Tcg deserves thanks for the thread title, as it's from one of their recent posts. It makes me wonder, if this is true and accurate (which I have little reason to doubt that it's not true and accurate for some), does doing this equate to nothing more than pickin'-n'choosin' (that's happens so much within christianity) or if there is something to it that, if explained, makes sense.

If you are one of these followers that agree with the thread title statement, can you explain why?

For discussion:
Is it possible to be a christian and only believe certain words (aka quotes), certain passages or certain stories from the bible, or do you have to believe it all?
And why?

[We_Are_VENOM]

If you dont believe that, then all of that "Jesus was a good man and role model" stuff is hogwash.

I never claimed to believe it.

I was speaking generally. After all, we all know that Christianity aint for you.

But I do agree that the assertion that Jesus was good is hogwash.
Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

Because I believe the bible is the word of God and none of God's words are without value. Also if° God inspired the writers, this would logically cover their narrative as well as their direct quotes [ * edit ].

What direct quotes? Please be specific and explain how you know they are direct quotes.


Tcg

[ * edit ]..... that is IF there were any direct quotes in scripture.



JW

[Tcg]

Because I believe the bible is the word of God and none of God's words are without value. Also if° God inspired the writers, this would logically cover their narrative as well as their direct quotes [ * edit ].

What direct quotes? Please be specific and explain how you know they are direct quotes.


Tcg

[ * edit ]..... that is IF there were any direct quotes in scripture.



JW

So as one of Jehovah (a name that dates to the Middle Ages)'s Witnesses you aren't sure there are any direct quotes in the Bible?


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

So ... you aren't sure there are any direct quotes in the Bible?

It's not about what I am sure about or not. I said >> IF the writers of the bible (or any book) were inspired, there would be no logical reason to limit that inspiration to any direct quotes [if quotes were in fact made] with the exclusion of the narritives therein.

PLEASE NOTE I choose to make no CLAIM one way or the other on the above hypothesis

[ * ]I usually use conditionals ( ... or suppositions, hypothesis etc ) when discussing God in this subforum in order to respect forum guidelines while also avoiding making any absolute claims in this regard.This hopefully avoids being sidetracked by challenges to prove God's existence when that is not the point of discussion.

JW

[Tcg]

So ... you aren't sure there are any direct quotes in the Bible?

It's not about what I am sure about or not.

The question I asked is certainly about that.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

So ... you aren't sure there are any direct quotes in the Bible?

It's not about what I am sure about or not.

The question I asked is certainly about that.


Tcg

Thank you for asking, I choose not to focus on myself when posting here, as my approach is to debate a topic not the debator. If however you would like to know more about my personal feelings and beliefs I can invite you to post a direct question in a subforum where I might possibly be willing to answer you (see below)




Best Regards,

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

[Tcg]

So ... you aren't sure there are any direct quotes in the Bible?

It's not about what I am sure about or not.

The question I asked is certainly about that.


Tcg

Thank you for asking, I choose not to focus on myself when posting here, as my approach is to debate a topic not the debator. If however you would like to know more about my personal feelings and beliefs I can invite you to post a direct question in a subforum where I might possibly be willing to answer you (see below)

Here is the genesis of my query:

Because I believe the bible is the word of God and none of God's words are without value. Also if° God inspired the writers, this would logically cover their narrative as well as their direct quotes.

What direct quotes? Please be specific and explain how you know they are direct quotes.


Tcg

It was based on the claim you made about direct quotes.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

Here is the genesis of my query:

...>> if°<< God inspired the writers, this would logically cover their narrative as well as their direct quotes.

It was based on the claim you made about direct quotes.


Tcg

...and I did clarify in POST #12 that it was a hypothesis and not a claim. See below

[ * edit ]..... that is IF there were any direct quotes in scripture.



JW

[Tcg]

Here is the genesis of my query:

...>> if°<< God inspired the writers, this would logically cover their narrative as well as their direct quotes.

It was based on the claim you made about direct quotes.


Tcg

...and I did clarify that it was a hypothesis and not a claim. See below

My response was made when it was still a claim. It didn't become an hypothesis until later.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

My response was made when it was still a claim. It didn't become an hypothesis until later.


Tcg

Since I was the one writing I alone can clarify what was originally meant. The sentence was introduced with a conditional which granted, was not repeated in the second clause but its inference was assumed.

Since there was some ambiguity as to whether the entire phrase was intended to be conditional, I clarified with a second post that it was.

And yet, no ..."thank you"!