William wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:01 pm
Willum wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:55 am
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Replying to nobspeople in post #5]
One could say that freely worshipping god would be (more) pleasurable to god than if one was 'programmed' to do so. I'd ask why a perfect being needs or even wants to be worshipped; shouldn't it be content with itself enough? I think so.
But since we're speaking about God, doesn't that just increase the scope of the "programming?"
From one of default pleasure, to abbreviate what you said, to one where freewill/sin are included?
Thank you for the excellent insight.
What type of worship is required from a Child to a Parent?
Does it require mainly listening or talking?
Does a perfect being even create Children?
Having the belief in the existence of Free Will allows for the individual to answer those questions presented under the assumption of the belief.
If the Creator Being is questioned as to why we even have the belief in the existence of Free Will because 'sin' - then it might be that the belief itself is what creates the idea of sin.
But "what is sin?" Has that been answered any more comprehensively than the question, "what is free will?"
Perhaps having the belief in the existence of Free Will allowed us the ability to make laws, which in turn allowed for us the ability to see sin and capacity is borne on that ability.
One can choose to see nothing more than a dubious gift, if one so desires...what drives the desire remains as hidden as the evidence of Free Will and Sin - largely left to the devices of the individual to sort out the answers to.
The OP does not in itself show answers sorted out.
The capacity to sin is not simply the product of free will, but of awareness of a self moderating morality over having to be moderated by others, to the point of correction.
Free will - real or imagined [as the case might be] is not simply a device in which to make capable only 'sin'.
The OP implies otherwise, but does not show supporting evidence to that being the case.
