Radioactive dating
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Radioactive dating
Post #1The basis for dating using ratios of isotopes is faith based. One example is that if we see an existing amount of parent and daughter material together, it is assumed that the present processes at work today are wholly responsible for all the material.
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Re: Radioactive dating
Post #31Why not? Did anyone directly observe the earth orbiting the sun 150,000 years ago? 1 million years ago? 250 million years ago? How do you know that the gods didn't manipulate things so that the earth didn't orbit the sun until relatively recently?Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 4:19 pm The claim that the Earth orbits the Sun (or more precisely their barycenter) is most certainly not an assumption, it follows directly from other assumptions.
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Post #32Because it follows directly from other assumptions.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 4:45 pmWhy not?Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 4:19 pm The claim that the Earth orbits the Sun (or more precisely their barycenter) is most certainly not an assumption, it follows directly from other assumptions.
How can we find out?
I don't know for sure. But personally I'm prepared assume the model we have of the universe represents reality.
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Post #33Name one thing, besides your own existence, that you know to be true.Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:33 pmBecause it follows directly from other assumptions.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 4:45 pmWhy not?Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 4:19 pm The claim that the Earth orbits the Sun (or more precisely their barycenter) is most certainly not an assumption, it follows directly from other assumptions.
How can we find out?
I don't know for sure. But personally I'm prepared assume the model we have of the universe represents reality.
Are you asking these questions with some goal in mind?
Being apathetic is great....or not. I don't really care.
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Post #34Why?Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:35 pmName one thing, besides your own existence, that you know to be true.Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:33 pmBecause it follows directly from other assumptions.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 4:45 pmWhy not?Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 4:19 pm The claim that the Earth orbits the Sun (or more precisely their barycenter) is most certainly not an assumption, it follows directly from other assumptions.
How can we find out?
I don't know for sure. But personally I'm prepared assume the model we have of the universe represents reality.
Are you asking these questions with some goal in mind?
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Re: Radioactive dating
Post #35[Replying to Sherlock Holmes in post #34]
Because I'm interested in your answer. So again....Name one thing, besides your own existence, that you know to be true.
Because I'm interested in your answer. So again....Name one thing, besides your own existence, that you know to be true.
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Re: Radioactive dating
Post #36No, I suggest you start a topic in the Philosophy area and clearly state your thesis and question there.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:40 pm [Replying to Sherlock Holmes in post #34]
Because I'm interested in your answer. So again....Name one thing, besides your own existence, that you know to be true.
This thread was created to discuss the role played by assumption in radioactive dating techniques.
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Post #37LOL....figured. You know what the point is and where I was going, but rather than go down that road you opt to deflect and hope it goes away.Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:42 pmNo, I suggest you start a topic in the Philosophy area and clearly state your thesis and question there.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:40 pm [Replying to Sherlock Holmes in post #34]
Because I'm interested in your answer. So again....Name one thing, besides your own existence, that you know to be true.
This thread was created to discuss the role played by assumption in radioactive dating techniques.
Avoiding uncomfortable reality is the creationists' superpower.
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Re: Radioactive dating
Post #38I respectfully suggest you start a topic in the Philosophy area and clearly state your thesis and question there, see if it attracts any interest from people.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:45 pmLOL....figured. You know what the point is and where I was going, but rather than go down that road you opt to deflect and hope it goes away.Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:42 pmNo, I suggest you start a topic in the Philosophy area and clearly state your thesis and question there.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:40 pm [Replying to Sherlock Holmes in post #34]
Because I'm interested in your answer. So again....Name one thing, besides your own existence, that you know to be true.
This thread was created to discuss the role played by assumption in radioactive dating techniques.
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Post #39I suggest you actually answer the question, since you're the one who has been going on and on about "assumptions" and the like.Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:48 pmI respectfully suggest you start a topic in the Philosophy area and clearly state your thesis and question there, see if it attracts any interest from people.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:45 pmLOL....figured. You know what the point is and where I was going, but rather than go down that road you opt to deflect and hope it goes away.Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:42 pmNo, I suggest you start a topic in the Philosophy area and clearly state your thesis and question there.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:40 pm [Replying to Sherlock Holmes in post #34]
Because I'm interested in your answer. So again....Name one thing, besides your own existence, that you know to be true.
This thread was created to discuss the role played by assumption in radioactive dating techniques.
Avoiding uncomfortable reality is the creationists' superpower.
Being apathetic is great....or not. I don't really care.
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Post #40Let me remind you what the rest of us have been discussing Jose:Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:51 pmI suggest you actually answer the question, since you're the one who has been going on and on about "assumptions" and the like.Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:48 pmI respectfully suggest you start a topic in the Philosophy area and clearly state your thesis and question there, see if it attracts any interest from people.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:45 pmLOL....figured. You know what the point is and where I was going, but rather than go down that road you opt to deflect and hope it goes away.Sherlock Holmes wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:42 pmNo, I suggest you start a topic in the Philosophy area and clearly state your thesis and question there.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:40 pm [Replying to Sherlock Holmes in post #34]
Because I'm interested in your answer. So again....Name one thing, besides your own existence, that you know to be true.
This thread was created to discuss the role played by assumption in radioactive dating techniques.
Avoiding uncomfortable reality is the creationists' superpower.
If you want to discuss something else then go ahead, start a thread and clearly state your thesis and questions.The basis for dating using ratios of isotopes is faith based. One example is that if we see an existing amount of parent and daughter material together, it is assumed that the present processes at work today are wholly responsible for all the material.