My Kidney Challenge

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Should you be made to give up one of your kidneys in the scenario presented in the opening post?

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There is a little girl, named Sally. She needs a kidney transplant or she will die. You are the only compatible donor available.

Should you be forced you to give up one of your kidneys to save her life?

Why or why not?

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What difference does it make that it's a girl who's involved?

what difference does it make that she's little?

What difference does it make that her name is Sally?

Should I be forced you to give up one of my kidneys to save her life? I should not.

Why not? It's my kidney. I like it and I might need it.


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Kylie wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:53 am There is a little girl, named Sally. She needs a kidney transplant or she will die. You are the only compatible donor available.

Should you be forced you to give up one of your kidneys to save her life?

Why or why not?
If you're looking for an objective and/or the correct answer then I'll admit that I'm hopelessly agnostic in these cases. The right thing to do in this case would be relative to a person's goal or moral standard - none of which can be proven to be anything beyond their opinion/socio-cultural conditioning. If the moral or goal is to save the lives of others just as long as it doesn't cause harm to yourself, then a person should give up a kidney. I'd personally do it because that's how I was raised.
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Miles wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:01 pm .

What difference does it make that it's a girl who's involved?

what difference does it make that she's little?

What difference does it make that her name is Sally?

Should I be forced you to give up one of my kidneys to save her life? I should not.

Why not? It's my kidney. I like it and I might need it.


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So you argue that a person's bodily autonomy is more important than another person's life, right?

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AgnosticBoy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:27 am
Kylie wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:53 am There is a little girl, named Sally. She needs a kidney transplant or she will die. You are the only compatible donor available.

Should you be forced you to give up one of your kidneys to save her life?

Why or why not?
If you're looking for an objective and/or the correct answer then I'll admit that I'm hopelessly agnostic in these cases. The right thing to do in this case would be relative to a person's goal or moral standard - none of which can be proven to be anything beyond their opinion/socio-cultural conditioning. If the moral or goal is to save the lives of others just as long as it doesn't cause harm to yourself, then a person should give up a kidney. I'd personally do it because that's how I was raised.
But should a person be FORCED to?

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Kylie wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:59 am
Miles wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:01 pm .

What difference does it make that it's a girl who's involved?

what difference does it make that she's little?

What difference does it make that her name is Sally?

Should I be forced you to give up one of my kidneys to save her life? I should not.

Why not? It's my kidney. I like it and I might need it.


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So you argue that a person's bodily autonomy is more important than another person's life, right?
I state, not argue, that I should not be forced to give up one of my kidneys to save her life.

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[Replying to Kylie in post #1]

Force is almost always morally wrong.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Miles wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:26 pm
Kylie wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:59 am
Miles wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:01 pm .

What difference does it make that it's a girl who's involved?

what difference does it make that she's little?

What difference does it make that her name is Sally?

Should I be forced you to give up one of my kidneys to save her life? I should not.

Why not? It's my kidney. I like it and I might need it.


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So you argue that a person's bodily autonomy is more important than another person's life, right?
I state, not argue, that I should not be forced to give up one of my kidneys to save her life.

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Regardless, you hold that a person has the right to bodily autonomy, correct? We have the right to decide what our bodies are used for.

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Kylie wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:00 am But should a person be FORCED to?
My answer is that I don't know the right answer (objectively-speaking). I don't believe in forcing any surgeries on anyone, so no, no one should be forced to give a kidney.

This seems to be some kind of test you're doing. Do you have the correct answers laying around somewhere?
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AgnosticBoy wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:20 pm
Kylie wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:00 am But should a person be FORCED to?
My answer is that I don't know the right answer (objectively-speaking). I don't believe in forcing any surgeries on anyone, so no, no one should be forced to give a kidney.

This seems to be some kind of test you're doing. Do you have the correct answers laying around somewhere?
I personally hold to the idea that we must have bodily autonomy. We must be able to have the final say in what our bodies are used for. We don't pass laws that everyone MUST be an organ donor, for example. We recognise that a person has the right to say what happens to their body, even after death.

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