I have noticed that sometimes people with a scientific mind, people who have studied a lot and know a lot of information about different sciences, do not notice simple things that do not escape the attention of ordinary people, even if they have studied less or almost nothing.
For example, the fact that the animals that evolutionists call "lower" in the evolutionary scale still live alongside humans, and that others supposedly fitter, because they are located in a higher position in the evolutionary line of man, no longer exist.
Evolutionary theory holds that as animals progressed up the evolutionary scale, they became more capable of surviving. Why, then, is the “inferior” ape family still in existence, but not a single one of the presumed intermediate forms, which were supposed to be more advanced in evolution? Today we see chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans, but no “ape-men.” Does it seem likely that every one of the more recent and supposedly more advanced “links” between apelike creatures and modern man should have become extinct, but not the lower apes? https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101985017
To what extent do you think the "wisdom" of this system of things can cloud a person's mind?
Scientific thinking and common sense
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Re: Scientific thinking and common sense
Post #61It is just one among many creation stories and adventurous tales of gods and demons. One could see it as the Marvel comic book of its day.
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Post #62Equating the Bible to a Marvel comic book is not something any serious theist or atheist scholar of archeology, ancient history, philology or Biblical anthropology would ever suggest though, its not a view held by any competent scholar in these scientific fields you'll find.
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Post #63Equating the Bible to the word of a god one can't even show exists to've uttered it is the greater crime.Inquirer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:06 pm Equating the Bible to a Marvel comic book is not something any serious theist or atheist scholar of archeology, ancient history, philology or Biblical anthropology would ever suggest though, its not a view held by any competent scholar in these scientific fields you'll find.
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Post #64So you agree it seems, equating the Bible to a Marvel comic book is a "crime" even in your view, thank you.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:10 pmEquating the Bible to the word of a god one can't even show exists to've uttered it is the greater crime.Inquirer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:06 pm Equating the Bible to a Marvel comic book is not something any serious theist or atheist scholar of archeology, ancient history, philology or Biblical anthropology would ever suggest though, its not a view held by any competent scholar in these scientific fields you'll find.
As do nonsensical, poorly argued, and badly written forum posts.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:10 pm "You gotta take my sacred book serious" does not bind anyone to do so.
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Post #65Let's run with that...Inquirer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:20 pmSo you agree it seems, equating the Bible to a Marvel comic book is a "crime" even in your view, thank you.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:10 pm Equating the Bible to the word of a god one can't even show exists to've uttered it is the greater crime.
All ya'll comic book equaters, do y'all some of the Hell Marys.
All y'all "word of God" promoters, well bless your hearts.
lomfpocAs do nonsensical, poorly argued, and badly written forum posts.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:10 pm "You gotta take my sacred book serious" does not bind anyone to do so.
Present goofy claims, risk not being taken seriously.
The bible's it the mother of all "nonsensical, poorly argued, and badly written".
My point remains - if one wants take the bible seriously, that don't mean everyone hasta.
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Post #66No, it just looks that way to someone completely unfamiliar with it, no different to if you were to encounter this for example:JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:22 pmLet's run with that...Inquirer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:20 pmSo you agree it seems, equating the Bible to a Marvel comic book is a "crime" even in your view, thank you.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:10 pm Equating the Bible to the word of a god one can't even show exists to've uttered it is the greater crime.
All ya'll comic book equaters, do y'all some of the Hell Marys.
All y'all "word of God" promoters, well bless your hearts.
lomfpocAs do nonsensical, poorly argued, and badly written forum posts.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:10 pm "You gotta take my sacred book serious" does not bind anyone to do so.
Present goofy claims, risk not being taken seriously.
The bible's it the mother of all "nonsensical, poorly argued, and badly written".
Unless one puts in the work, the study, the effort and research one will not be able to make sense of it and could easily make the error of describing this as "nonsensical" and "badly written", do you see what I mean?
That's some "point" Joey, congratulations.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:22 pm My point remains - if one wants take the bible seriously, that don't mean everyone hasta.
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Post #67So is it your argument that everyone who isn't a Christian is only that way because they haven't "put in the work, the study, the effort, and research" and therefore are unfamiliar with the Bible?Inquirer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:39 am No, it just looks that way to someone completely unfamiliar with it, no different to if you were to encounter this for example:
Unless one puts in the work, the study, the effort and research one will not be able to make sense of it and could easily make the error of describing this as "nonsensical" and "badly written", do you see what I mean?
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Post #68No, those are your words not mine. I was explaining to Joey that the Bible appearing to him to be "nonsensical" or "badly written" is because he perhaps doesn't understand it.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:06 pmSo is it your argument that everyone who isn't a Christian is only that way because they haven't "put in the work, the study, the effort, and research" and therefore are unfamiliar with the Bible?Inquirer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:39 am No, it just looks that way to someone completely unfamiliar with it, no different to if you were to encounter this for example:
Unless one puts in the work, the study, the effort and research one will not be able to make sense of it and could easily make the error of describing this as "nonsensical" and "badly written", do you see what I mean?
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Post #69That's why I asked.
What do you say to folks like me who have read the Bible and grew up immersed in Christianity literally from one week old, but also find the general story of the Bible to be nonsensical?I was explaining to Joey that the Bible appearing to him to be "nonsensical" or "badly written" is because he perhaps doesn't understand it.
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Post #70Whatever you were "immersed in" it was unhelpful to you it seems.Jose Fly wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:58 pmThat's why I asked.
What do you say to folks like me who have read the Bible and grew up immersed in Christianity literally from one week old, but also find the general story of the Bible to be nonsensical?I was explaining to Joey that the Bible appearing to him to be "nonsensical" or "badly written" is because he perhaps doesn't understand it.