The problem of evil refers to the challenge of reconciling belief in an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God, with the existence of evil and suffering in the world. eta:{SOURCE}
The problem of evil
Moderator: Moderators
- William
- Savant
- Posts: 15331
- Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:11 pm
- Location: Te Waipounamu
- Has thanked: 981 times
- Been thanked: 1813 times
- Contact:
The problem of evil
Post #1Q: Is the statement "Then there is "The problem of evil"" one of fact or conjecture? [science or opinion] In realty, does such a problem actually exist?
Last edited by William on Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- 1213
- Savant
- Posts: 12899
- Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:06 am
- Location: Finland
- Has thanked: 451 times
- Been thanked: 469 times
Re: The problem of evil
Post #22My new book can be read freely from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view
Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view
Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html
-
- Banned
- Posts: 9237
- Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:05 am
- Has thanked: 1080 times
- Been thanked: 3981 times
- William
- Savant
- Posts: 15331
- Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:11 pm
- Location: Te Waipounamu
- Has thanked: 981 times
- Been thanked: 1813 times
- Contact:
Re: The problem of evil
Post #24I thought I would post these evidential results - things I have on my list to date which correspond mathematically with the word-string "The problem of evil"...
The problem of evil = 183
[183]
Fling That Veil Aside
Learn to trust
Transformation
Embracing your life
Test The Waters
Team Witch-Wizard
Elemental Powers
The brain as a receiver
The Hubble Telescope
Manifest Destiny
Sister Saturn
Children of The Light
Planned obsolescence
Cosmic Pluralism
Truthfulness
Hydrogen and helium
One Eight Three = 139
[139]
Awakening Love
The problem of evil = 183
[183]
Fling That Veil Aside
Learn to trust
Transformation
Embracing your life
Test The Waters
Team Witch-Wizard
Elemental Powers
The brain as a receiver
The Hubble Telescope
Manifest Destiny
Sister Saturn
Children of The Light
Planned obsolescence
Cosmic Pluralism
Truthfulness
Hydrogen and helium
One Eight Three = 139
[139]
Awakening Love
- 1213
- Savant
- Posts: 12899
- Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:06 am
- Location: Finland
- Has thanked: 451 times
- Been thanked: 469 times
Re: The problem of evil
Post #25My new book can be read freely from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view
Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view
Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html
- William
- Savant
- Posts: 15331
- Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:11 pm
- Location: Te Waipounamu
- Has thanked: 981 times
- Been thanked: 1813 times
- Contact:
Re: The problem of evil
Post #26Atheist: [Statements about the Bible and stuff like that]
[Replying to 1213 in post #25]
[593]
Opinion is that which has yet to be established as a matter of fact
Is the statement one of fact or conjecture? [science or opinion]
Maybe it isn't really a claim but just a statement of opinion...
[Replying to 1213 in post #25]
William: Maybe it isn't really a claim but just a statement of opinion...Theist: I don't think there is anything in the Bible to support that claim.
[593]
Opinion is that which has yet to be established as a matter of fact
Is the statement one of fact or conjecture? [science or opinion]
Maybe it isn't really a claim but just a statement of opinion...
- Tcg
- Savant
- Posts: 8667
- Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:01 am
- Location: Third Stone
- Has thanked: 2257 times
- Been thanked: 2370 times
Re: The problem of evil
Post #28Yes, and also the serpent who became or was also Satan. It's not God's fault the serpent (who God put in the garden) deceived them. So, its human's and Satan's fault. God remains the ultimate Teflon don. Or even later during the flood and other genocides, the Teflon Hitler character.TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:58 am
No.That isn't wisdom. It is knowledge. Something is known. Wisdom is understanding and the Bible has never been great on understanding. It rather shakes its' head over Understanding and the Wise, and prefers unquestioning trust in whatever they are told to do, like little children.
Without getting into the whole Eden fairy story and how (if one credited it) it had to be set up by God to make sure humans sinned and died, the message is, don't think and do what you are told. Anything else is sin. Of course, I reckon the whole thing is to get over the problem of Evil. God's creation has to be perfect, so why isn't it? Answer - blame Man. The story designed to make Man to blame for Evil, is not only wrong (according to science) but incredibly shoddy, but that has never bothered the believers.
Tcg
To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
- Irvin D. Yalom
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
- Irvin D. Yalom
- William
- Savant
- Posts: 15331
- Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:11 pm
- Location: Te Waipounamu
- Has thanked: 981 times
- Been thanked: 1813 times
- Contact:
Re: The problem of evil
Post #29[Replying to Tcg in post #28]
I am an atheist in relation to anyone's interpretation of characterizations of any gods.
I lack belief in those gods so much, that interpretation of characterizations of those gods is beside the point.
I am an atheist in relation to anyone's interpretation of characterizations of any gods.
I lack belief in those gods so much, that interpretation of characterizations of those gods is beside the point.
- 1213
- Savant
- Posts: 12899
- Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:06 am
- Location: Finland
- Has thanked: 451 times
- Been thanked: 469 times
Re: The problem of evil
Post #30My new book can be read freely from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view
Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view
Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html