Imagine this: Satan and the Antichrist, against all expectations, have triumphed over the Abrahamitic god, Jesus and the Holy Spirit in the last Battle of Armageddon
Our Trinity is not neccessarily dead, but ruined and toppled from its place of Power.
How do the Abrahamitic god, Jesus and the Holy Spirit feel now, that the unthinkable happened?
What will Satan and the Antichrist do now that their greatest triumph is accomplished?
What will their minions do and what will the other humans still on earth do?
What will the surviving angels and demons do?
And what happens to the "true christians" that descended to heaven on the first day of tribulation? Will they be kicked out now that evil has won?
Armageddon is over and Satan has won ! What happens now ?
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Re: Armageddon is over and Satan has won ! What happens now ?
Post #41I'm curious to see if you can show it's truthful in any way.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:42 pmJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:50 amSays this.
Then says this...Most of the things you posted arent even taught in the bible. Never could a creation defeat the creator. Revelation is clear. When Jesus returns satan will be captured and abyssed for 1000 years, then loosed for a little while, then thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed forever. The bible doesnt teach the antichrist will be a man, those living in darkness that do not have Jesus teach it is a man.
Only the little flock( Luke 12:32) is promised heaven-these are numbered= 144,000 ( Rev 14:3)--this is the bride of Christ. THE great crowd which no man can number are not promised heaven anywhere in the bible, and since they are the only other ones who belong to Jesus got this promise from him= Matt 5:5 blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth--The psalmist knew that fact as well-Psalm 37:29
Its what the bible teaches. You cannot prove its wrong in any way.
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Re: Armageddon is over and Satan has won ! What happens now ?
Post #42brunumb wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:23 pmI just read through Revelation 6 and saw nothing remotely like WW1 being described. As for Revelation 13 being seen for years, all I can say is you've got to be kidding. Close the Bible for a while, go outside and smell the roses. It's not all doom and gloom.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:09 pm The world watched Rev 6 unfold back in 1914-foretold in the book of Daniel pinpointing the year. All have seen rev 13 for years. My teachers say the next event is the fall of babylon the great=Worldwide false religionsssssssss. They say that locks the door to the ark perse and triggers the tribulation.
The fall of the worldwide false religions would see every religion go. That is surely something to be desired, but human nature will never allow that to happen. Fear and superstition are too ingrained in the human mind and there are always unscrupulous people out there preying on the vulnerable in the name of religion.
Peace will be taken from the earth Rev 6:4= world war, not a single war.
The two horned beast = the last world power=The united states and the united kingdom-- Excercises all authority of the first beast(resolutions)--17: cannot buy or sell( sanctions) unless has the mark,the name or the # of the wild beast-- Its a mans number( not a man)666---verse13--makes fire come down out of the heavens( bombs-missiles)-- Of the wild beast it says elsewhere --It was, is not(death stroke) and yet is( death stroke got healed)= The league of nations--done away with--united nations.
The bible says God puts it into their hearts to do away with babylon the great( it cannot be stopped)
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Re: Armageddon is over and Satan has won ! What happens now ?
Post #43JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:27 pmI'm curious to see if you can show it's truthful in any way.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:42 pmJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:50 amSays this.
Then says this...Most of the things you posted arent even taught in the bible. Never could a creation defeat the creator. Revelation is clear. When Jesus returns satan will be captured and abyssed for 1000 years, then loosed for a little while, then thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed forever. The bible doesnt teach the antichrist will be a man, those living in darkness that do not have Jesus teach it is a man.
Only the little flock( Luke 12:32) is promised heaven-these are numbered= 144,000 ( Rev 14:3)--this is the bride of Christ. THE great crowd which no man can number are not promised heaven anywhere in the bible, and since they are the only other ones who belong to Jesus got this promise from him= Matt 5:5 blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth--The psalmist knew that fact as well-Psalm 37:29
Its what the bible teaches. You cannot prove its wrong in any way.
The liar lies, and the preacher preaches.
Jesus preached is he a liar?
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Re: Armageddon is over and Satan has won ! What happens now ?
Post #44Possibly, but we will never know for sure because he is dead.
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Re: Armageddon is over and Satan has won ! What happens now ?
Post #45You can't even show Jesus, the human / god hybrid, ever existed to've done him any preaching.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:19 pmJesus preached is he a liar?JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:27 pmI'm curious to see if you can show it's truthful in any way.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:42 pmIts what the bible teaches. You cannot prove its wrong in any way.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:50 amSays this.
Then says this...Most of the things you posted arent even taught in the bible. Never could a creation defeat the creator. Revelation is clear. When Jesus returns satan will be captured and abyssed for 1000 years, then loosed for a little while, then thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed forever. The bible doesnt teach the antichrist will be a man, those living in darkness that do not have Jesus teach it is a man.
Only the little flock( Luke 12:32) is promised heaven-these are numbered= 144,000 ( Rev 14:3)--this is the bride of Christ. THE great crowd which no man can number are not promised heaven anywhere in the bible, and since they are the only other ones who belong to Jesus got this promise from him= Matt 5:5 blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth--The psalmist knew that fact as well-Psalm 37:29
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Post #46[Replying to TheParticlePerson in post #6]
Satan is a freewill tool that God uses to accomplish his will for men.
In Catholicism, there is not fight between God and Satan. That would be silly. In fact, I cannot think of any Christian I have ever personally known that thinks this.Good question. If it isn't, what's all this fuss about the "fight between good and evil" about?
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Post #47I'd like to see you put you some truth to that.AquinasForGod wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:43 pm In Catholicism, there is not fight between God and Satan. That would be silly. In fact, I cannot think of any Christian I have ever personally known that thinks this.
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Post #48I can only imagine by put some truth to that you mean show it is the Catholic position. If you mean to show God and Satan exist, well that is beyond the scope of my reply and to what I replied to.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:34 amI'd like to see you put you some truth to that.AquinasForGod wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:43 pm In Catholicism, there is not fight between God and Satan. That would be silly. In fact, I cannot think of any Christian I have ever personally known that thinks this.
Satan is a freewill tool that God uses to accomplish his will for men.
But as far as Catholicism goes.
Revelation 12:3-4 figuratively expresses that one-third of the angels joined in Satan’s rebellion against God. - https://www.catholic.com/qa/how-much-do ... -in-heaven
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Re: Armageddon is over and Satan has won ! What happens now ?
Post #49That would depend on who does the classifying. Scripturally Almighty God alone can classify a religion false or true, and according to scripture, true religion exists and will exist and survive the destruction of false religion just prior to Armageddon (compare James 1:27 and Rev 7:9)
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Post #50So it's a sermon then, okay.AquinasForGod wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:50 pmI can only imagine by put some truth to that you mean show it is the Catholic position. If you mean to show God and Satan exist, well that is beyond the scope of my reply and to what I replied to.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:34 amI'd like to see you put you some truth to that.AquinasForGod wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:43 pm In Catholicism, there is not fight between God and Satan. That would be silly. In fact, I cannot think of any Christian I have ever personally known that thinks this.
Satan is a freewill tool that God uses to accomplish his will for men.
But as far as Catholicism goes.
Revelation 12:3-4 figuratively expresses that one-third of the angels joined in Satan’s rebellion against God. - https://www.catholic.com/qa/how-much-do ... -in-heaven
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