Scientific thinking and common sense

[Eloi]

I have noticed that sometimes people with a scientific mind, people who have studied a lot and know a lot of information about different sciences, do not notice simple things that do not escape the attention of ordinary people, even if they have studied less or almost nothing.

For example, the fact that the animals that evolutionists call "lower" in the evolutionary scale still live alongside humans, and that others supposedly fitter, because they are located in a higher position in the evolutionary line of man, no longer exist.

Evolutionary theory holds that as animals progressed up the evolutionary scale, they became more capable of surviving. Why, then, is the “inferior” ape family still in existence, but not a single one of the presumed intermediate forms, which were supposed to be more advanced in evolution? Today we see chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans, but no “ape-men.” Does it seem likely that every one of the more recent and supposedly more advanced “links” between apelike creatures and modern man should have become extinct, but not the lower apes? https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101985017

To what extent do you think the "wisdom" of this system of things can cloud a person's mind?

[Clownboat]

You cant reason Gods thoughts. Its senseless to try.

God wants mortals to experience bad as bad as it can get -, mortals asked for it. It will get much worse soon in this system before God steps in.

We can't reason God's thoughts but we can tell that he wants us to experience bad as bad as it can get. Yeah, right. It appears that what you are telling us is that he doesn't really love us, because that is absolutely contrary to any notion of deep love.

He wants all creation to see that he was 100% correct by creating mortals to know only good. That knowing bad sucks for mortals. And they are finding out that bad does suck. Mortals chose it by kicking God in the teeth and believing the devils lie over God. The devil did 0 for Adam and Eve. God gave them Eternal life, knowing only good, never sick, not aging like now, never without. He asked 1 thing in return for all that-Do not eat of that tree. Then with that free will could choose to obey God.

To discuss the story about a garden of eden as a real thing would be do give it credit it doesn't deserve. Much like discussing a flat earth you would surely agree.
The rest of what you posted seems to be your take on the story we can read about in a religious promotional book called the Bible while in a thread about scientific thinking and common sense.

Ironically, you responded to this: "We can't reason God's thoughts" - by pretending to reason about the said god's thoughts.
"He wants all creation to see..."

Any who knows what the bible teaches knows my post is accurate.

Pride comes before a fall.
Good luck and be well. Check out Holy Huddle. Your claims wont be challenged there.

[kjw47]

Ok if its so easy to understand please explain the prophecy from Daniel that points to Revelation 6--And please share with us all --who or what is the 7 headed beast with 10 horns and the 2 horned beast of Revelation 13.
Yes Jesuswas Jewish, but then he told them off at Matt 23 and in verse38 assured them they were cut off of being Gods chosen, unless they did verse 39, they have outright refused for over 1950 years. The pharisees saw the new religion begin-Acts 24:5--The renting of the banner in two at the moment Jesus died signified they were cut off of being Gods chosen.

It being easy to understand does not mean there are not absurdities.
So you point to the ramblings of a mad man and ask me if I understand it. Few agree on the meanings in Revelations, but many have opinions.

Seems I understand it just fine. It's only when readers interject their own opinions that it becomes even more ridiculous. "He was seeing helicopters, jets and tanks!"

Again, Jesus was a Jew and he did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. He fulfilled the Jewish religion. Paul created Christianity and Jesus would roll in his grave if he knew what Paul did IMO. With Jesus, the kingdom was within us. With Paul, its all about blood and needing teachers.

Jesus: Matthew 6:14 For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you.
Paul: Eph 1:7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of grace.

Need another example?:
Jesus: Matthew 12:37 for by your words you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned.
Paul: Romans 5:9 Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.

How about needing teachers?
Paul: 1 Cor 12:28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers
Paul: 1 Timothy 1:11 For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher.
Jesus: Matthew 23:8 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren.

Jesus was a Jew, Paul created Judaism light known as Christianity for the Gentiles it seems.

Acts24:5 says it was a sect of the Nazarene=Jesus' religion. One thing for sure, After Jesus told the Israelite spiritual teachers off at Matt 23, he sure wouldnt want his to continue in an apostocised religion, so to begin with just gathered in homes, Paul set up congregations after.
Only the real religion that has Jesus as its head can understand revelation. I see you cant understand it calling John a madman, but the reality of it makes perfect sense.

You don't know how debate works do you?

Your preaching is not appreciated and is against forum rules. If you cannot abide by the rules, the forum has a section called Holy Huddle that would be more appropriate.

I was a born again, drunk in the holy ghost missionary of 2 decades. Your slander falls on deaf ears and betrays any god helping you post.

Be well.

You were apart of false religion-These 2 Cor 11: 12-15--I am debating your darkness. Cant take it huh.

[kjw47]

You cant reason Gods thoughts. Its senseless to try.

God wants mortals to experience bad as bad as it can get -, mortals asked for it. It will get much worse soon in this system before God steps in.

We can't reason God's thoughts but we can tell that he wants us to experience bad as bad as it can get. Yeah, right. It appears that what you are telling us is that he doesn't really love us, because that is absolutely contrary to any notion of deep love.

He wants all creation to see that he was 100% correct by creating mortals to know only good. That knowing bad sucks for mortals. And they are finding out that bad does suck. Mortals chose it by kicking God in the teeth and believing the devils lie over God. The devil did 0 for Adam and Eve. God gave them Eternal life, knowing only good, never sick, not aging like now, never without. He asked 1 thing in return for all that-Do not eat of that tree. Then with that free will could choose to obey God.

To discuss the story about a garden of eden as a real thing would be do give it credit it doesn't deserve. Much like discussing a flat earth you would surely agree.
The rest of what you posted seems to be your take on the story we can read about in a religious promotional book called the Bible while in a thread about scientific thinking and common sense.

Ironically, you responded to this: "We can't reason God's thoughts" - by pretending to reason about the said god's thoughts.
"He wants all creation to see..."

Any who knows what the bible teaches knows my post is accurate.

Pride comes before a fall.
Good luck and be well. Check out Holy Huddle. Your claims wont be challenged there.

Isnt this about debating? If so, why are you running? Arent you here to debate? Debates cant occur unless both sides are involved.

[brunumb]

You were apart of false religion-These 2 Cor 11: 12-15--I am debating your darkness. Cant take it huh.

You are not debating anything. You are merely tossing around Bible verses which are not considered as having any validity here. Demonstrate that they are irrefutably true and you might have something to debate.

[Clownboat]

You were apart of false religion-These 2 Cor 11: 12-15--I am debating your darkness. Cant take it huh.

Please be kind enought to point to one religion and show that it is true.
Trust me, I can take it for god has not given me the spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind.

Perhaps you'll even type something that we can then discuss?

[Clownboat]

Pride comes before a fall.
Good luck and be well. Check out Holy Huddle. Your claims wont be challenged there.

Isnt this about debating?

It is supose to be, but posts like: "Any who knows what the bible teaches knows my post is accurate" is not to debate. It is just an empty claim devoid of any evidence.

If so, why are you running?

I'm running? You have quite the imagination.

Arent you here to debate?

Have been since 2008.

Debates cant occur unless both sides are involved.

Then please stop preaching as it is against forum rules.

Any thoughts as to why Paul was all about blood and having teachers while Jesus was all about the kingdom of heaven being within us?
Why would Jesus say to forgive and we will be forgiven, yet Paul claims that forgiveness and redemption comes from blood? Which person do you believe? Jesus or Paul?

What about when Jesus said that by our words we would be justified and by our words we would be condemned when compared to Paul who says we will be justified by blood which will also save us from the wrath of a god?

[kjw47]

You were apart of false religion-These 2 Cor 11: 12-15--I am debating your darkness. Cant take it huh.

You are not debating anything. You are merely tossing around Bible verses which are not considered as having any validity here. Demonstrate that they are irrefutably true and you might have something to debate.

I have shared things that prove it true, no matter what i share you will say the opposite. Because your treacherous and desperate heart( Jer 17:9) has made you reason falsely and convinced your heart false things are true. It would be best for you to pray to Jehovah and ask him to show you.

[kjw47]

You were apart of false religion-These 2 Cor 11: 12-15--I am debating your darkness. Cant take it huh.

Please be kind enought to point to one religion and show that it is true.
Trust me, I can take it for god has not given me the spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind.

Perhaps you'll even type something that we can then discuss?

There is only one religion that listens to Jesus, his teachings point all to it. I have a thread-the real Jesus-in Theology, i shared 8 teachings from Jesus that shows who is who.

[kjw47]

Pride comes before a fall.
Good luck and be well. Check out Holy Huddle. Your claims wont be challenged there.

Isnt this about debating?

It is supose to be, but posts like: "Any who knows what the bible teaches knows my post is accurate" is not to debate. It is just an empty claim devoid of any evidence.

If so, why are you running?

I'm running? You have quite the imagination.

Arent you here to debate?

Have been since 2008.

Debates cant occur unless both sides are involved.

Then please stop preaching as it is against forum rules.

Any thoughts as to why Paul was all about blood and having teachers while Jesus was all about the kingdom of heaven being within us?
Why would Jesus say to forgive and we will be forgiven, yet Paul claims that forgiveness and redemption comes from blood? Which person do you believe? Jesus or Paul?

What about when Jesus said that by our words we would be justified and by our words we would be condemned when compared to Paul who says we will be justified by blood which will also save us from the wrath of a god?

I am not preaching, i am sharing Gods truths against the darkness of those who debate against it.

[Clownboat]

You were apart of false religion-These 2 Cor 11: 12-15--I am debating your darkness. Cant take it huh.

You are not debating anything. You are merely tossing around Bible verses which are not considered as having any validity here. Demonstrate that they are irrefutably true and you might have something to debate.

I have shared things that prove it true, no matter what i share you will say the opposite. Because your treacherous and desperate heart( Jer 17:9) has made you reason falsely and convinced your heart false things are true. It would be best for you to pray to Jehovah and ask him to show you.

You (generic you) can't just say, "with all due respect", make an evil claim and pretend you (generic you) are not a jerk because you said "with all due respect".
That is all you (not generic) are doing here. You show that you have evil in you ("your treacherous and desperate heart" claim for example) and expect us to ignore it because you says its the bible saying it.

With all due respect or because the bible said so does not abolish the evil that has been stated.
You will know them by their fruits and yours have been put on display for all to see here.